Will The Republican Party Continue To Attack The Country With Boehner Leaving?

2015-09-28T14:38:57-04:00

"John Boehner was a terrible, very bad, no good speaker of the House. Under his leadership, Republicans pursued an unprecedented strategy of scorched-earth obstructionism, which did immense damage to the economy and undermined America’s credibility around the world.

Still, things could have been worse. And under his successor they almost surely will be worse. Bad as Mr. Boehner was, he was just a symptom of the underlying malady, the madness that has consumed his party.

For me, Mr. Boehner’s defining moment remains what he said and did as House minority leader in early 2009, when a newly inaugurated President Obama was trying to cope with the disastrous recession that began under his predecessor.

There was and is a strong consensus among economists that a temporary period of deficit spending can help mitigate an economic slump. In 2008 a stimulus plan passed Congress with bipartisan support, and the case for a further stimulus in 2009 was overwhelming. But with a Democrat in the White House, Mr. Boehner demanded that policy go in the opposite direction, declaring that “American families are tightening their belts. But they don’t see government tightening its belt.” And he called for government to “go on a diet.”

This was know-nothing economics, and incredibly irresponsible at a time of crisis; not long ago it would have been hard to imagine a major political figure making such a statement. Did Mr. Boehner actually believe what he was saying? Was he just against anything Mr. Obama was for? Or was he engaged in deliberate sabotage, trying to block measures that would help the economy because a bad economy would be good for Republican electoral prospects?

We’ll probably never know for sure, but those remarks set the tone for everything that followed. The Boehner era has been one in which Republicans have accepted no responsibility for helping to govern the country, in which they have opposed anything and everything the president proposes. "

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/28/opinion/paul-krugman-the-blackmail-caucus-aka-the-republican-party.html?_r=0

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Response by Capt Walter Miller made Sep 28 at 2015 2:48 PM

2015-09-28T14:48:38-04:00

In case the link doesn't work:

What’s more, it has been an era of budget blackmail, in which threats that Republicans will shut down the government or push it into default unless they get their way have become standard operating procedure.

All in all, Republicans during the Boehner era fully justified the characterization offered by the political analysts Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein, in their book “It’s Even Worse Than You Think.” Yes, the G.O.P. has become an “insurgent outlier” that is “ideologically extreme” and “unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science.” And Mr. Boehner did nothing to fight these tendencies. On the contrary, he catered to and fed the extremism.

So why is he out? Basically because the obstructionism failed.

Republicans did manage to put a severe crimp on federal spending, which has grown much more slowly under Mr. Obama than it did under George W. Bush, or for that matter Ronald Reagan. The weakness of spending has, in turn, been a major headwind delaying recovery, probably the single biggest reason it has taken so long to bounce back from the 2007-2009 recession.

But the economy nonetheless did well enough for Mr. Obama to win re-election with a solid majority in 2012, and his victory ensured that his signature policy initiative, health-care reform — enacted before Republicans took control of the House — went into effect on schedule, despite the dozens of votes Mr. Boehner held calling for its repeal. Furthermore, Obamacare is working: the number of uninsured Americans has dropped sharply even as health-care costs seem to have come under control.

In other words, despite all Mr. Boehner’s efforts to bring him down, Mr. Obama is looking more and more like a highly successful president. For the base, which has never considered Mr. Obama legitimate — polling suggests that many Republicans believe that he wasn’t even born here — this is a nightmare. And all too many ambitious Republican politicians are willing to tell the base that it’s Mr. Boehner’s fault, that he just didn’t try blackmail hard enough.

This is nonsense, of course. In fact, the controversy over Planned Parenthood that probably triggered the Boehner exit — shut down the government in response to obviously doctored videos? — might have been custom-designed to illustrate just how crazy the G.O.P.’s extremists have become, how unrealistic they are about what confrontational politics can accomplish.

But Republican leaders who have encouraged the base to believe all kinds of untrue things are in no position to start preaching political rationality.

Mr. Boehner is quitting because he found himself caught between the limits of the politically possible and a base that lives in its own reality. But don’t cry for (or with) Mr. Boehner; cry for America, which must find a way to live with a G.O.P. gone mad."

Response by CSM David Heidke made Sep 28 at 2015 3:25 PM

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Don't let the kool aid stain that nice white blouse of yours.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Sep 28 at 2015 4:59 PM

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Capt Walter Miller - The Republican Party does not attack the country, they attack the Democrat "leadership" (and that's an oxymoron, for sure) and its progressive/socialist, immoral, corrupt, and unethical policies that are destroying our country.

Response by SN Greg Wright made Sep 28 at 2015 6:54 PM

2015-09-28T18:54:49-04:00

RP Members, please do not feed this troll by responding to him. His tactics are blatant in every post he makes. Please don't feed the hate by giving him your time and attention.

Response by Cpl Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 28 at 2015 7:25 PM

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"For me, Mr. Boehner’s defining moment remains what he said and did as House minority leader in early 2009, when a newly inaugurated President Obama was trying to cope with the disastrous recession that began under his predecessor. "

Pssst! The recession began while the DEMOCRATS held congress while controlling the purse strings.

Remember these parts of the US Constitution? I will concede that Bush signed the bill, but the DEMOCRAT held congress had to deliver it to the oval office.

Article. I. Section. 1.
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Article. II. Section. 8.
The Congress shall have Power To lay and collect Taxes, Duties, Imposts and Excises, to pay the Debts and provide for the common Defence and general Welfare of the United States; but all Duties, Imposts and Excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;

Response by PO2 Peter Klein made Sep 28 at 2015 10:42 PM

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The tea baggers and anti-government members of the GOP will no longer be held in check by Boehner. I thought he was a weak Speaker until I realized how messed up some of the GOP are. Just hope McCarthy does not become the new Speaker.

Response by CDR Brian Rinaldi made Sep 29 at 2015 3:14 AM

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I agree that Boehner was a terrible speaker of the house and so called leader of the Republican Party but disagree if you think that the Republican Party as a whole wanted to have an obstructionist strategy. They had no choice but to object to the socialist policies of the current administration. If you think that increasing our deficit more than any other administration to a point of almost no return is a good thing for the country, I also disagree. A welfare state that is going every day will destroy our country just like it destroyed the other socialist/communist experiments throughout history. I hope that the USA can get back on the right track soon.

Response by Cpl Chris Rice made Sep 29 at 2015 3:25 AM

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It’s actually a bad thing that Speaker Boehner has left his position, for the last four years he has acted as a buffer to the hardliners in the Republican Party, and while I think that he can be largely credited for allowing the Republican Party to survive because it might not be seen as completely crazy, he is managed to make himself the least liked person in the Republican Party because of this. The Republican Party currently has a majority in both the House and the Senate, although they don’t have the majorities they need to be dominant enough for hardliners to be successful.

Response by PO2 Steven Erickson made Sep 29 at 2015 4:55 AM

2015-09-29T04:55:55-04:00

Your initial paragraph betrays the true intent of this post.

You do NOT want an intellectual, rational discussion - you're either looking for like-minded people to support your position, or you're looking for a fight.

This post is intellectually dishonest drivel masquerading as coherent thought. If the post was identical, but written against a democrat / liberal, I would post this exact reply.

Disappointing and humiliating. The only reason I took time to reply is that you are an officer. Dear God in heaven, you should know better...

Response by PO3 David Fries made Sep 29 at 2015 6:43 AM

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This post, and the comments that follow, are almost everything that is wrong with modern politics.

Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 7:09 AM

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Just an observation from an old man. When one needs to resort to name calling, one usually has no real points to make. I think that is very true in this case.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 7:42 AM

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Capt Walter Miller - This is why nobody is willing to engage you in conversation or take you seriously. SSG Palmer, who is a Democrat by his own words, in another post states that he finds certain Republicans to be reasonable and your only response is to fire back with "they are particularly horrid".

So I'll ask you. What is your business on RP? I have yet to read a single comment, or discussion you have started or partaken in that was constructive to a conversation and not inflammatory.

Your constant need to attack people you don't agree with or make derogatory remarks about those people who differ from you ideologically only points to your own massive inferiority complex and intolerance of other people. Your need to start "conversations" with the most inflammatory subject lines and obnoxious drivel that supports your party line beliefs, is not meant to open the mind, but rather to force it shut and start a closed minded argument. What exactly does this accomplish again?

Finally, on a personal note, I find you to be an incredibly disrespectful individual, thoroughly incapable of intellectual thought that does not toe the party line, who goes around speaking in a derogatory manner to all who don't agree with you in every facet, all the while never looking past your own blinders and calling others "sheep". Now, I apologize in advance if you have an actual undiagnosed developmental disability up there in your brain, but that type of thought is something to be expected from a person in the 5th grade at most.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Sep 29 at 2015 7:44 AM

2015-09-29T07:44:49-04:00

And these are the same people who hold up Nancy Pelosi as an example to emulate? Hilarious...

Response by PO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 7:45 AM

2015-09-29T07:45:27-04:00

Good or bad, this is politic. lol live with it.

Response by Sgt Tom Cunnally made Sep 29 at 2015 8:05 AM

2015-09-29T08:05:05-04:00

"Will The Republican Party Continue To Attack The Country With Boehner Leaving?".... I think for it is worth the Republicans had both the congress and the senate but without the Presidency they could not get what they wanted . So now the Republican want to get one of their own in the White House..If this happens you could still see the far right wing of the Republicans unhappy..But not sure they will continue to attack the country. That might just be a stretch Cap Miller but just one man's opinion who as they say has been around the block a few times... Maybe a few too many??

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 8:28 AM

2015-09-29T08:28:21-04:00

Capt Walter Miller That's a very good question. The positions of both parties hurt the people of the United States. Politicians are great at pointing the finger at each other because blaming the other guy (party) is much easier than finding a real solution. Imagine if instead of pointing fingers they actually set about finding a solution. They say outrageous things to get huge headlines to distract us from more important issues. It's not to their benefit to solve these problems because solving the problems will hurt their own pockets/the parties themselves. What about solving the problem of our nation's energy dependence. Subsidies to support these programs are far fewer than those to support fossil fuels, given the fact that between "1994 and 2009 the U.S. oil and gas industries received a cumulative $446.96 billion in subsidies, compared to just $5.93 billion given to renewables in those years. (The nuclear industry, by the way. received $185 billion in federal subsidies between 1947 and 1999.)" They want to keep money flowing to these because they're huge contributors to the parties, Ever think about what is really going on when the nation is fighting over historical symbols and race division.

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Sep 29 at 2015 8:29 AM

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While I agree with your assessment of REP Boehner, I do not agree with your biased opinion of the GOP. I think it would be worth your long term intellectual interests to go back and see who were actually to blame for the economic melt down of 2009. Do not let your political bias blind you to the truth.

The Democrats have much, if not more, blame for these problems as the Republicans.

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Sep 29 at 2015 10:39 AM

2015-09-29T10:39:03-04:00

As pointed out earlier, this is just another instance of bomb throwing to see how much damage and vitriol that can be started. IMO, there are many of us that would like to discuss the issues, in depth, with logic accompanying those discussions. This post does nothing to further the melding of our citizens, but a continuation of the current occupant's tactics in dividing the nation. Name calling accomplishes nothing! With the possible exception of showing ignorance.

"It’s better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than open it and remove all doubt."

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Sep 29 at 2015 11:43 AM

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Capt Walter Miller, Sir, I usually like what you write. I don't always agree with it, but it comes from a different perspective and facts to support it. Some of those facts seem to be more opinionated to me, but they still support your argument. Sir, on this one, I cannot support you. I will not vote you down because you are a Liberal vs. a Conservative, a Dem vs. a Republican. I'm not going to vote this down at all. You've earned free speech the same as the rest of us, but SIR, that headline is bordering on over the top. I'd say this if it was written by someone with conservative views. Neither party has a monopoly on getting things right. In fact, they both specialize in pandering to Big(insert whatever here), yet spoon-feeding America BS disguised as truth. They're not attacking America at all; they're assaulting our individual sense of beliefs, our common sense, and the unity that should be the hallmark of America. Neither party has pushed hard for campaign reforms. Neither has managed to pass a balanced budget. Cruz has managed personally to use a very cheap tool of shutting the government down, but that is him personally and not even all republicans supported him. If there is ANYTHING in DC that is really attacking the US, it's the parties as a whole. Sir I'd ask you to consider that. No matter what you could say about one, the other has screwed up equally as bad.

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 11:57 AM

2015-09-29T11:57:38-04:00

Interesting points but once again you left no room to have a disagreement or for anyone else to state their opinions.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 12:02 PM

2015-09-29T12:02:41-04:00

Horsecrap/// Not like W was not attacked.. Put on your big boys pants and act like a man... thick skin.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Sep 29 at 2015 12:23 PM

2015-09-29T12:23:34-04:00

This question reminds me of the example we learned in school when discussing the rule against self-incrimination: "Have you stopped beating your wife? Yes or No" Either answer is bad. Equally bad is the refusal to answer only with a "yes" or "no". Thus, I'm not going to dignify it with any answer. It's a waste of time. I'm only warning others that this is merely a trap. Avoid it or answer at your own peril...

Response by SFC Matthew Parker made Sep 29 at 2015 1:38 PM

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Capt Miller,
It's Speaker Boehner, duly chosen and elected IAW the constitution. Please try to refer to him with some respect.
The republican party does not in fact attack the country, they question policy, they disagree with the philosophy of the democratic party in government. Republican shills like Rush are mean spirited and disrespectful towards those they disagree with but they don't attack the country. The right wingers on Rally Point who attack the President personally or use language like "progressive/socialist, immoral, corrupt, and unethical policies that are destroying our country" are just as bad but they don't attack the country they have so honorably served.
The democratic leaders in the House and Senate have attacked the policy's of the republican administrations, and they have questioned the philosophy of the republican party. And shills like you speak with disrespect towards republicans with no basis for your personal attacks. "terrible, very bad, no good speaker of the House" is not a form of constructive well thought out political dialog.
Fact is both political parties want what they feel is best for this country. Both have an agenda that conflicts with the others. But your comments and those of the right wingers are equal in their nonsense. When you run for office and win, and you need to govern, remember regardless of party we are one country.

Response by SPC George Rudenko made Sep 29 at 2015 1:54 PM

2015-09-29T13:54:56-04:00

I think what is sad is the political position of "I'm not going to do anything, because I don't want to be held accountable for what I do. And I am going to attack those who screw up, then tell my constituants look at me, I didn't screw up".

Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Sep 29 at 2015 2:08 PM

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To much to read. But these are different times. We have had presidents that did nothing. And no it was not Bush. That was in the 19th century. But we never had a president like Obama. Harry Ried would not send bills that Obama would veto. And Obama continues to evade congress by doing executive orders. Then threatening any presidential candidate who would remove him. Rebublicans compromise democrats don't. He did a lot of things that you did not hear about. But he did not do what we he was put in that office for. As majority leader we wanted him to take on Obama. They say give us the house. Next give us the Senate and we do. Know it is give us the White House and we will get things done. You know what really irked me. Was when Mitch Mc'Connell wiuld not use the nuclear option to end depate on Obama Iran agreement. Which is really a treaty. Have them in record for voting no and let Obama veto be on the record.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 3:43 PM

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Downvoting this post for obvious reasons. Those who can see past the end of their nose know exactly why. You won't gain any fans or convert anyone Capt Miller so go post stuff like this on your Facebook or instagram. This does nothing to further the profession of arms. I do agree with you about one thing however, Mr Boehnor was a horible speaker because he was and is a democrat.

Response by CW3 Kevin Storm made Sep 29 at 2015 3:46 PM

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Really, I seem to recall Nancy Pelosi doing the same damn thing during her tenure as Speaker. She was also coined as the party of No. How quickly we forget.

Response by SSG John Erny made Sep 29 at 2015 5:20 PM

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So where does that put the geriatric Nancy Pelosi when she was speaker most of her statements were idiotic or the words from someone suffering from old age dementia.
The Top 10 from Nancy Pelosi:

1.“The Bible tells us in the Old Testament, ‘To minister to the needs of God’s creation is an act of worship. To ignore those needs is to dishonor the God who made us.’ On this Earth Day, and every day, let us pledge to our children, and our children’s children, that they will have clean air to breathe, clean water to drink, and the opportunity to experience the wonders of nature.”
Nice. The only problem is the Old Testament contains no such quote.
2. “This initiative is funded by the high end – we call it Astroturf It’s not really a grassroots movement.”
Just gut-wrenching hypocrisy -Astroturf is all the Dem Socialists know, so naturally she accuses her political opposition of what her side does in spades.
3. “Every week we don’t pass a Stimulus package, 500 million Americans lose their jobs.”
Yeah, she actually said that.
4. I’m confident…I’m hopeful that we’ll have a (health care) bill as a Christmas present for the American people.
This, after polls were showing a majority of the American people were against it, after several weeks of bruising (for Dems) town hall meetings in which citizens voiced their opposition to the bill, and after hundreds of thousands showed up in Washington to protest the bill…
5.. You go through the gate. If the gate’s closed, you go over the fence. If the fence is too high, we’ll pole-vault in. If that doesn’t work, we’ll parachute in. But we’re going to get health care reform passed for the American people.
At the time, 61% of the American people were saying it was time for Congress to scrap ObamaCare.
6.“Unemployment benefits are creating jobs faster than practically any other program”
Imagine how many jobs we could create if everyone quit their jobs! Wait…..
7. “I believe in natural gas as a clean, cheap alternative to fossil fuels.”
Needless to say, natural gas is a fossil fuel.
8. “I think it’s unAmerican.” (to enforce immigration law).
She said that to a Hispanic audience, and refused to clarify the statement when Fox News called her office later on for comment.
9. Well, the family planning services reduce cost. They reduce cost.
This was in response to a question from George Stephanopoulos about the wisdom of spending millions of dollars on birth control funding in the stimulus package.
10. “We have to pass the (health care) bill so you can find out what is in it”.

Response by PO2 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 5:33 PM

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As much as I believe myself to be a Democrat, Boehner was probably the only person keeping the Republican party from flying off to the right and losing any commonality with the general public. Boehner was a statesman and a politician at its finest: one who could bargain and get deals done, and bite the bullet when he had to. The rest of his party will undoubtedly try to push themselves further to the right only to find out that it's not as successful as making an appeal to the broad electorate.
I think that losing Boehner was not only a huge blow for the Republican party, but for America in general simply because he was someone people could work with, and through people like him we had the best ideas from both sides succeeding.

Response by Col Joseph Lenertz made Sep 29 at 2015 8:09 PM

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I suggest asking a question after researching a variety of sources on the subject. This one is just another attack in the form of a question.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 8:23 PM

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Decades ago when I was in High School, my friends and I took a road trip to Mobile Alabama to watch us some WWF wrestling. I forget the names however there were two arch rivals present who pretended to hate each other, they could barely contain themselves around the other, always ready to fly off the handle and attack the other with a folding chair or whatever else was left laying around. After the match was over one of my friends insisted on waiting around back to watch the wrestlers leave the arena, he was the one driving... so it's not like we could object. Anyway, what we saw was both of these wrestlers leave the area together and get into the same car. Their rivalry was nothing but showmanship. I get a sense that the same thing is happening between our politicians these days, they pretend to hate one another... but in the end they all work for the banks, the oil companies, big Pharma, and the military industrial complex. Boehner's resignation was just a part of the show.

Response by CW5 Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 29 at 2015 9:04 PM

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There was and is a strong consensus among economists that a temporary period of deficit spending can help mitigate an economic slump..................Seriously? 5 TRILLION more debt now than when Bush left office. Is that your idea of temporary deficit spending? Stop drinking the kool aide.

Response by SPC Andrew Griffin made Sep 29 at 2015 9:06 PM

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Yes they will! This is why the Country is SUFFERING!

Response by CH (MAJ) Thomas Conner made Sep 29 at 2015 9:57 PM

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Yes, they probably will. That is what you want to hear isn't it? Regardless of any response showing the Republican Party is not "attacking" the country, you would argue Obummer is the greatest (gag!) President and the only political party to ever do anything right ("we have to pass the bill to know what's in it"), is the Democrats (I just threw-up a little). So what is the purpose of your question? You obviously are just looking for an argument and not looking to expanding your view.

Response by PO3 Sherry Thornburg made Sep 29 at 2015 10:18 PM

2015-09-29T22:18:03-04:00

Haven't been happy with the senate all along. They are the do nothing part of congress. The House has sent lots of good legislation there to be buried and ignored.

Response by Capt Jeff S. made Sep 29 at 2015 10:26 PM

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A question based on a false premise can only end with a false conclusion.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Sep 30 at 2015 7:51 AM

2015-09-30T07:51:23-04:00

An update:

"Dent, who is an ally of Boehner, provided a surprisingly suiting analogy:

“Any jackass can kick down a barn door. It takes a carpenter to hang one. We need a few more carpenters around here. Everybody knows it.”

New York Rep. Peter King put it a bit more succinctly:

“I think [Boehner’s resignation] signals the crazies have taken over the party … They’re not going to see it as a gesture of peace, they’re going to just look for more.”

You know there is trouble on the horizon when a Republican starts calling members of his own party “crazies” and “jackasses” — even if those labels are perfectly appropriate. It seems the establishment Republicans are finally starting to understand what goes on in the minds of their extremist brethren. Individuals like Ted Cruz do not want compromise or peace, but destruction; that is, they want the government to fail. Dent believes the GOP needs more “carpenters,” but conservatives do not want to build; they are political terrorists, and their target is the government. These hard-liners have made Congress so dysfunctional over the past few years that the belief in government has hit all-time lows, especially when it comes to Congress itself.

The looming possibility of a government shutdown reveals this tactic. Even though there is no chance of defunding Planned Parenthood with Obama as president, conservatives are still fighting to do so."

http://www.salon.com/2015/09/30/the_gops_doomsday_clock_keeps_ticking_why_the_worst_is_yet_to_come_in_congress/

Walt

The GOP’s doomsday clock keeps ticking: Why the worst is yet to come in Congress

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Response by Capt Walter Miller made Sep 30 at 2015 8:06 AM

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Update 2:

http://thehill.com/policy/defense/254928-pentagon-begins-to-plan-for-a-government-shutdown

Pentagon: Troops will not get paid during a shutdown

Troops would have to report to work without pay until Congress authorizes the funds.

Response by MSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2015 9:16 AM

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I expect the next speaker will be closer to the republican base, so I expect more of the same.

Unfortunately, the strongly held beliefs of the republican base and lack of basic critical thinking skills cause them to react to fear mongering from the media and the republican representatives they elected.

When statements are continually made that the POTUS is Muslim, not born in the USA, a socialist, taking my guns, etc., they lose all credibility.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Sep 30 at 2015 1:22 PM

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Sir, my direct after thought was to tell you to serve under a few more presidents before you make comments like these; but I see you’ve been in a while so I can’t understand your accusations, especially when you’ve seen the typical treatment of the military through different administrations. I find your direct accusations distasteful and a poor reflection on this forum.

Good day.

Response by PO1 Glenn Boucher made Sep 30 at 2015 2:32 PM

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John Boehner's retiring is probably the best thing he as done as a politician.
I don't really see the Republican or Democratic party attacking anything except for each other. In my opinion not a single one of them are really interested in doing the right thing for the country as a whole.
I don't know what's worse, a group of babies having a concerted temper tantrum or politicians talking smack about each other.

Response by LCDR Jeffery Dixon made Sep 30 at 2015 3:02 PM

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Your opines are just that.. Sad to see them represented as if they were undisputed facts. I have never seen a military officer make such an unqualified and unbalanced remarks.

Response by SGT Rick Ash made Sep 30 at 2015 8:09 PM

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Yes we WILL! I am a Constitutionalist Conservative and your facts need checking. Mind quoting a definitive source where we did anything other than trying to fix something the Libtards have screwed up? We own the House, We own the Senate and the time IS near for some real action.
Was Boehner correct in his assessment of Obama's actions? Yes. Obama is at best a community organizer. At worst, a failed leader of the ONLY Superpower left in the world. Look what is happening in Syria right now. We will be lucky if we aren't at war with Russia this time tomorrow night. Good Grief, did you read what you wrote? Just Sayin'....

Response by MAJ Matthew Arnold made Sep 30 at 2015 10:29 PM

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I am a Republican. I agree with almost everything the Republican Party stands for and does. I do not like the ACA (Obama Care) and want it repealed, I do not want to pay for everyone else's health care. I want the government to balance the budget. Like an expert in a court case, you can find an economists to support what you want said. I don't like much of anything Pres. Obama has done. He has either pushed a socialist agenda which cannot be paid for, and or has exceeded the authority of the executive branch and ruled like a dictator, both actions I consider wrong, just flat our wrong. (This is not the Union of Socialist States of America.) And I could go on: Article 10, 2nd Amendment, visitors to the White House, Press control by the administration, yada, yada, yada. For every passionate complaint a liberal has about the conservatives there is an equal and opposite passionate conservative complaining about the liberals. For example: I just don't see how anyone can support a party that supports murdering the unborn children. It is beyond me. It is unacceptable and I will do anything legal to stop this evil practice, including shutting down the government. If that's what it takes to get people's attention and get this publicly funded criminal mass murdering stopped then so be it. I would prefer not to shut down the government, but I support it if it is the only way to make illegal what should already be illegal. So, who is playing brinkmanship when one party says they will approve the budget if one item is removed? Just remove this one little thing that we can't agree on and we'll pass the budget, and all the other thousands of things and the government can go on operating normal, retirees will get their paychecks, yada, yada, yada. The party who says no, all or nothing, is to blame for shutting down the government.

Well, I've gone off, and off scope, forgive me.

Response by Cpl James Waycasie made Oct 1 at 2015 5:14 AM

2015-10-01T05:14:36-04:00

Sir, I hardly ever down vote anyone. Not even the ones that down vote me and I'm not going to down vote you, but I would like to ask a question. besides obviously being a die hard no matter what Democrat, are you related to Obama? You really seem to admire the man. I think that Dr. Carson sets a much better example in personality and concern for this Nation. I respect that you have the right to say and believe whatever, but I have been seriously thinking that you may be related to Obama and perhaps that hinders you from seeing the turmoil he has caused in our Nation. Anyway I disagree with you on a lot of things but I agree that Boehner was no good. I think both sides suck and both sides have been playing let's see who can kill the nation first. My honest opinion though is that your great Obama has done far worse than anyone else and I know you disagree with that , but don't worry, I wouldn't hunt you down and behead you over it, lol Have a good day Sir.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 1 at 2015 8:32 AM

2015-10-01T08:32:15-04:00

I have to disagree to a lot of this. Since when is it a successful business plan to over spend? If the government was a business it would have gone under years ago. Parties aside they need to work together to undo the mess that decades of politics and back scratching has done and get a real budget that funds the government and is within its actual income and pays off the national debt.

Response by Sgt Tom Cunnally made Oct 1 at 2015 4:07 PM

2015-10-01T16:07:29-04:00

"Will The Republican Party Continue To Attack The Country With Boehner Leaving?"
This is like asking me "When did you stop beating your wife".... Answer I never did Sir but thanx for asking .

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 1 at 2015 9:40 PM

2015-10-01T21:40:31-04:00

Jesus, this is the stupidest crap in RP history...lol

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 1 at 2015 11:31 PM

2015-10-01T23:31:53-04:00

"As the Pentagon eyed steep funding cuts to the Defense Commissary Agency, it asked RAND to review how price hikes have affected civilian grocery retailers and how those results might affect DECA sales and revenues.

RAND researchers, in their analysis of the private-sector trends, found that “when there are available substitutes, the increase in revenue due to an increase in price levels will be offset more than proportionally by the negative effect of a decrease in” quantities purchased.

“As such, raising overall price levels will not be a successful strategy to cover shortfalls in costs caused by the elimination of the annual DOD appropriation,” the study found.

The Pentagon’s fiscal 2016 budget proposal includes an approximately 25 percent cut in the commissary budget, according to RAND. In addition, the Defense Department has proposed cost savings such as reduced operating hours and a smaller payroll. Officials have said that in 2017 they will seek to sell groceries at a profit and to expand the types of goods that can be bought and sold."

http://www.stripes.com/news/study-commissary-price-hikes-to-offset-funding-cuts-could-backfire-1.337472

That this could even be suggested is an attack on the country by attacking the Military.

Study: Commissary price hikes to offset funding cuts could backfire

Raising prices at commissaries to compensate for a possible decrease in taxpayer funding could backfire, causing customers to shop elsewhere, according to a new RAND report.

Response by SPC Nathan Freeman made Oct 2 at 2015 6:47 PM

2015-10-02T18:47:24-04:00

You're a regular propaganda machine aren't you? Every question you ask begins with a liberal and erroneous misconception.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 6 at 2015 11:20 AM

2015-10-06T11:20:03-04:00

More attacks by the GOP on the Military and the Country:

"Today a majority of Senators voted to underfund the VA by $850 million. So when these folks go back to their home states, attend ceremonies, take photos with men and women in uniform, and give speeches about their profound gratitude for the veterans and their families, remember this vote."

https://www.facebook.com/senatortester/videos/ [login to see] 431665/?fref=nf

Senator Jon Tester | Facebook

Today a majority of Senators voted to underfund the VA by $850 million. So when these folks go back to their home states, attend ceremonies, take photos...

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 6 at 2015 11:47 AM

2015-10-06T11:47:14-04:00

Another attack on the country to make you lose respect for the government.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 7 at 2015 5:06 AM

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Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 7 at 2015 5:07 AM

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Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 7 at 2015 3:09 PM

2015-10-07T15:09:37-04:00

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/senate-blocks-60-billion-infrastructure-plan/2011/11/03/gIQACXjajM_story.html

Another GOP attack on the country.

Senate blocks $60 billion infrastructure plan, another part of Obama jobs bill

The Senate shot down another piece of President Obama’s $447 billion jobs bill Thursday.

Response by CWO2 Shelby DuBois made Oct 9 at 2015 9:19 AM

2015-10-09T09:19:11-04:00

Wait..did he say " unprecedented strategy of scorched-earth obstructionism"??? Oh... I get it ... it was a joke.. right.. good one Captain.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 9 at 2015 10:04 PM

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Response by TSgt Kenneth Ellis made Oct 10 at 2015 2:32 AM

2015-10-10T02:32:44-04:00

Lol, scorched earth. He did everything Obama wanted. Very do you think Harry Ried was she ring tears when he heard he was leaving. You have got it wrong the only scorched earth is from Obama. He has faced no obstruction.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 11 at 2015 7:56 AM

2015-10-11T07:56:41-04:00

I want to thank all you guys who keep bumping my threads.

Walt

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 11 at 2015 7:57 AM

2015-10-11T07:57:32-04:00

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjLuukA6BCs&index=14&list=PL233F19D091E51E7C

Just because, dang it.

Walt

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Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 11 at 2015 8:01 AM

2015-10-11T08:01:15-04:00

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Whatshisname above has disabled my comments to his posts on my thread.

Walt

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 12 at 2015 7:58 AM

2015-10-12T07:58:50-04:00

More job creation by the Obama Administration.

Walt

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 13 at 2015 10:44 AM

2015-10-13T10:44:53-04:00

The most amazing thing about politics in this country is how many people actively work against their own best interests to support single cause issues. Right now the GOP is going ape crazy over Planned Parenthood. Really: There has been ample opportunity to overturn Roe v. Wade – look at how the Supreme Court tossed a century of precedent to decide Citizens United.

THE GOP DOESN’T WANT TO GET RID OF ABORTION ON DEMAND. It serves them too well to stir up the ignorant and single issue voters.

Many lower or middle class people dislike/hate Unions. Unions and collective bargaining are the only reason that fair wages are paid in this country.

The idea of national health care freaks them out. President Obama is the antichrist even for supporting it.

There is national health care in every developed country in the world --- except this one. Are they just stupid in Denmark or Iceland or England? Don’t they care about their children?

People need to wake up and abandon the GOP, which has been attacking the country since Reagan was president. Unglaze your eyes and think for yourself.

Yes. The value of wages has hardly budged in decades.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/10/09/for-most-workers-real-wages-have-barely-budged-for-decades/

Geez. Wake up.

Walt

For most workers, real wages have barely budged for decades

For most U.S. workers, inflation-adjusted wages have been flat or falling for decades, regardless of whether the economy has been adding or subtracting jobs. The $4.03-an-hour rate recorded in January 1973 has the same purchasing power as $22.41 would today.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 15 at 2015 10:20 AM

2015-10-15T10:20:33-04:00

http://www.occupydemocrats.com/graham-to-veterans-if-you-want-good-healthcare-well-have-to-gut-social-security-medicare/

Graham To Veterans: If You Want Good Healthcare, We'll Have To Gut Social Security & Medicare...

The Republican attacks on veterans and seniors are reaching a boiling point.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 15 at 2015 2:17 PM

2015-10-15T14:17:27-04:00

http://aboveaverage.com/republican-voter-im-mystified-by-that-rational-discussion-between-non-maniacs/

Republican Voter: “I’m Mystified By That Rational Discussion Between Non-Maniacs”

Last night I turned on CNN to watch the Democratic primary debate because I knew it would be a psychotic free-for-all colored by non-stop aggression, wild racism and fantastical accounts of reality. I settled in with a warm mug of cinnamon-vanilla-bathsalt-pomegranate tea, laid my head on my softest shotgun barrel and waited for good old American politics to start.Well, I don’t know what that was but it was not an exchange between people who...

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 16 at 2015 9:52 AM

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Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 16 at 2015 11:22 AM

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http://www.salon.com/2015/10/16/16_times_the_onion_masterfully_trolled_american_politics_partner/

16 times the Onion masterfully trolled American politics

The satire site is a national treasure and needs no introduction. Here are just a few of their very best pieces

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 16 at 2015 1:23 PM

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Response by Capt Walter Miller made Oct 16 at 2015 1:24 PM

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Response by 1stSgt Eugene Harless made Oct 27 at 2015 12:00 AM

2015-10-27T00:00:50-04:00

I'm not one to get into political debate, I dislike both major parties ( actually ALL political parties) because they have a "one size fits all" mentality. Both parties will insist it is Night out if the other party says it is day, just to be contrary.
I do believe one of the major problems this country has is that all forms of Government have become too large and spend without consequence. EVERY agency overspends and wastes money and the end goal of its employees is to become bigger, expand its reach and increase it's budget.
The fact is once the Government creates an agency it NEVER goes away. It may get renamed but it only gets bigger and takes more money from the taxpayers.

Response by Capt Walter Miller made Dec 17 at 2015 10:03 AM

2015-12-17T10:03:47-05:00

Looks as if they will:

Congress' half-trillion dollar spending binge
Budget austerity takes a backseat as lawmakers prepare to pass nearly $700 billion in unpaid-for tax cuts.

"Rand Paul thinks the national debt is the “greatest threat” to America’s future. Donald Trump warns that the nation is at risk of becoming “a large-scale version of Greece.” And Marco Rubio says the debt will “shackle future generations.”
But on Capitol Hill this week, just hours before they jet away for the holidays, the GOP-led Congress is going on a $680 billion spending spree — none of which will be paid for by budget cuts or other tax offsets. And all of which will be added to the national debt, according to budget watchdogs.
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“We are doing damage to the fiscal health of the country by borrowing this mind-boggling amount at a time when the debt is so high,” said Maya MacGuineas, president of the bipartisan anti-debt nonprofit Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget. “It’s absolutely at odds with the priority Republicans are making — the debt — when they’re campaigning, and with the Republican budget that was passed out of the House.”
For the GOP presidential candidates, the $18 trillion national debt remains a central campaign talking point. But after years of relative fiscal austerity, including enactment of relatively modest spending rollbacks, GOP lawmakers are steaming toward passing a mammoth $680 billion tax package without offsets. It would make permanent a host of temporary tax breaks commonly called “extenders” — and is also chock-full of goodies for specific business interests and constituents.

Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/congress-spending-binge-tax-cuts-budget-deal-216883#ixzz3uafyVn6H

Congress' half-trillion dollar spending binge

Budget austerity takes a backseat as lawmakers prepare to pass nearly $700 billion in unpaid-for tax cuts.