Win, lose, or draw, will you thank Donald Trump for his campaign accomplishments?

2016-10-07T12:33:44-04:00

I know there are people who will be intrigued by this question and read a little further and there will be others who will respond without reading it. How sad for them because what follows is really interesting regardless of how you feel about Donald Trump. It's rather long and I'll paste the entire monologue below in case you can't access the link or have an aversion to Facebook which is the only place I can find it.

In summary, Trump has destroyed the GOP. He has destroyed it's fascination with the Bush family. He has destroyed much of the credibility, popularity, and influence of the popular news media. In a word, he has cleared the way for something new to be built. Even if he loses this election, he will have made it possible for someone to build a new GOP on the rubble of the old. Is that such a bad thing? Actually, I find it to be the only up side of this whole sordid election year. It is the only thing that gives me hope for America.

Well, here it is...

""Last night a friend claimed that Donald Trump wouldn’t make a good president; he is brash, he is racist, he is a loudmouth; you know the normal things people learn to recite after being programmed by television news. The one I loved was that, “Trump is arrogant.” My friend questioned if one man could make “that much difference in the world today.” To my friend's credit, she was respectful enough to let me respond when she asked, “Really, what has Trump done?”

I said, “In June of last year, Trump entered the race for president. In just a little over a year, Trump has single handedly defeated the Republican party. He did so thoroughly. In fact, he did so in such a resounding way that the Republican Party now suffers from an identity crisis. He literally dismantled the party. Trump even dismantled and dismissed the brand and value of the Bush family.

Trump has Obama petrified that Trump will dismiss programs that weren’t properly installed using proper law.

Trump has single handedly debunked and disemboweled any value of news media as we knew it—news now suffering from an all-time level of distrust and disrespect.

Trump has leaders from all over the world talking about him, whether good or bad. Trust me, powerful men who have been president before weren’t liked by the global community. I doubt Mikhail Gorbachev liked Reagan when Reagan said, "Tear down that wall."

Trump has expressly disclosed the fraud perpetrated on the American public by Hillary Clinton. He has, quite literally, brought Hillary to her knees—if you believe that nervous tension and disorders offer physical side effects and damage.

Trump has unified the silent majority in a way that should be patently frightening to “liberals.”
As the press accuses Trump of being a house of cards, Trump has proven the press is the real house of cards. He has whipped up the entire establishment into pure panic. Trump has exposed them for who they are and worse, what they are. George Clooney was right when he said Trump draws live news coverage of his podium that he’s not yet approached. Thanks, George, you were perfectly correct.
What we see as headline news today are actually the last bubbles from the ship that is now sunk—meaning the standard news media, as a propaganda machine, has been exposed. They have no more value.

In the same way Trump asked the African-American community this question, I asked my friend, ”At this point, what do you have to lose?” We have mass cop shootings, riots in our streets, ambushed cops, double digit inflation, bombs blowing up in our cities, targeted police, #BLM, a skyrocketing jobless rate, no economic growth, privately owned land being seized by the federal government, the worst racial tension in my lifetime, no God in schools, more abortions than ever, illegal aliens pouring into our country, sick veterans receiving no care, and a debt that doubled in seven years to $19 trillion. Are you really happy with the condition of the current system?

One man has done all of this in one year—one guy, and on his own dime. And with everything I’ve written above, you believe Trump hasn't done anything? You claim that you are afraid of Donald Trump? No wonder we’re in trouble. You can say that Trump is a lousy presidential candidate. That’s your right.
Just don’t ever say he’s not effective.

That Megan Kelly, FOX News, CNN, MSNBC, Washington Post, Rachel Maddow, the Huffington Post, the New York Times, Raleigh’s News and Observer, the AP, Don Lemon, Jake Tapper, and many more, failed to implement their collectively orchestrated lie on the American people against Trump, is actually a massive testament to Trump. The press colluded pure propaganda to accomplish his demise … and they have collectively failed and miserably.

Here's just one example of how badly America is injured right now. There are high school football players on their knees during the national anthem simply because the press used as propaganda to program those kids to do that very thing. But, these kids are mimicking NFL stars the same way the same kids chooses which brand of football shoe to purchase—they're overtly brain-washed to do that very thing.
Now, we have a generation of children who hate America.

America’s problem isn’t that little children are on their knee in collective disrespect of America. Our problem is that America is on her knee from collective disrespect by Americans.
You can disrespect America all you want. But, it’s high-time you respect the silent majority. Because they’re not simply the “silent majority” as you’ve been trained to believe when Hillary calls them “deplorables.” The fact is, they are simply the majority. And now they're no longer silent either. Donald

Trump changed all of that, single-handedly and within one year." From Be Forbes."

Bebe Coe Bertino
9/29/2016"

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Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 7 at 2016 12:38 PM

2016-10-07T12:38:01-04:00

Like him or not, he changed the political process, influenced the way it's financed and brought several issues to light for the entire system. He's not any better/worse than most any politician, but because he's not a politician everyone seems to hold him to a different standard.

Response by SFC George Smith made Oct 7 at 2016 12:49 PM

2016-10-07T12:49:59-04:00

yes ... he has exposed the Media Bias and the proved the election rigging... and just how far and Low HRC will got to become the Next POTUS

Response by MCPO Roger Collins made Oct 7 at 2016 1:02 PM

2016-10-07T13:02:58-04:00

We will only see his accomplishments, if he wins. He has proven that taking a stance on critical issues gets you the nomination only. The heavy lifting comes when and if he gets elected. If he does not, then he will have accomplished nothing and proven his critics right.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 7 at 2016 1:31 PM

2016-10-07T13:31:53-04:00

In the words of the great Miley Cyrus . . .
"I came in like a WREEEECCCKKKKING BAAAALL!"

Sometimes it only takes one person to create enough chaos for a broken system to be fixed. I think the fact that HRC is still allowed to run after blatant criminal misconduct was uncovered is evidence that there is a long way to go but it has started.

Response by LTC John Shaw made Oct 7 at 2016 1:36 PM

2016-10-07T13:36:07-04:00

Trump will lose in an electorical landside as he has not shown a modest reasonability required by the swing voters. Trump will just be another populist who lost and hurt the only voice of fiscal reason left in America. I am saddened by the GOP and for America. Hilliary is unworthy of the office, but she will be President.

Response by SSG Drew Cook made Oct 7 at 2016 1:46 PM

2016-10-07T13:46:24-04:00

LOL

Response by SPC Kevin Ford made Oct 7 at 2016 1:48 PM

2016-10-07T13:48:13-04:00

I've been thinking of putting my thoughts together on this and no surprises I have a somewhat different view. Having said that, I would never claim that he's ineffective, just what he is doing is very bad for us and the fact that he is effective makes it worse. Let me apologize in advance for the marathon length post.

First off, I think if he wins the election it will take some time for the Republican party to recover, if they ever can in their current form. During the last election they did a study on why the lost, understood the changing demographics and realized they needed to expand the size of their tent. Unfortunately, all their previous policies and setup of the primary system has made that change difficult. They didn't end up with someone who will increase the size of the tent, instead they ended up with someone who is extremely divisive and plays directly to the most faithful of the base. The only reason he is not being trounced right now is because the Democrats handed him a gift by nominating a candidate with huge negatives, one the Republican party has been demonizing for 20 years.

If he wins against her, the base of the party will be emboldened, regardless of the character of his presidency. They will continue to push through candidates like him but the Democrats will not continue to put up candidates with Hillary's negatives. This is a recipe for disaster for the Republican party that they will have a hard time recovering from.

This ties into the myth that both sides (including the author above) like to put forth, that there is some silent majority that they are representing. This is wishful thinking and is a good part of the reason the Republicans fooled themselves into thinking they were going to win the last presidential election. Another way of expressing "silent majority" is "a group of people that support us that we can't prove exists". Political parties get themselves into hot water when they start thinking that way and it also leads to them not trusting election results because they can't square the results with their belief in the silent majority. Something they came to believe exists without evidence.

If there is not evidence why do so many people on both sides think there is a silent majority that agrees with them? Some of it is certainly wishful thinking. A lot of it is confirmation bias. I'll talk about this in a minute but it gets down to the fact that as communities we have increasingly been isolating ourselves, talking with people that agree with us and disregarding those and sources that don't. In our heads this quickly leads us to the conclusion that most polls are inaccurate because they don't match with our (limited) experience of what others believe. Then we will talk within our respective bubbles and see that everyone else has the same experience because they are operating in the same bubble we are. So the idea of the silent majority is born. I fooled myself with this one in 2004.

I'll give you an example of this phenomenon that happened with a referendum vote in my town. We have an ordinance called prop 46 that limits the increase in property taxes to the growth in the grand list. There are several problems with this when it comes to the changing funding needs in town and a group forced a referendum to repeal it. I was trying to advise that group by bringing up the positive aspects of prop 46 and what they should do to address these very valid concerns that people would have with such a repeal. Long story short the guy leading the initiative called me to tell me I was making the other members of the group uncomfortable and they were convinced that the majority of people in town supported them. Of course they convinced themselves of that because they didn't want to recognize or even interact with ideas that didn't agree with what they thought internally. Things did not go well for them when that referendum vote happened.

For several years trust in the media has been degrading and certainly Trump has fueled that fire. If it had turned into the idea that people should read news stories, recognize bias and come to their own conclusions based on the facts, I'd agree that this was a good thing. But that's not what happened. Instead people have isolated themselves into camps where they have made up their minds of what is true and disregard any outside information that they don't already believe is true. I.e. this is my conclusion, now let's look for evidence to support it instead of let's look at the entirety of evidence and draw a conclusion.

The problem with this is it is leading to all sorts of confirmation bias, becoming an increasingly divided society and and all sorts of unsupported beliefs such as the silent majority myth. How can we have a functioning democracy when we don't occupy a shared reality (what I mean by that is we don't even agree on the facts of a situation because we don't believe any source that gives facts that don't agree with). I partially blame this on the political discourse and I partially blame this on the blurring of the lines between editorial and news content on news networks. Even in the same news network those two sides are publicly at odds. A good example of this was the recent public Twitter disagreement between Hannity (editorial) and Kelly (news) where Hannity cast doubts on Kelly's impartiality because she didn't support Trump.

If we destroy all credibility in people and institutions that disagree with our beliefs we have no way to judge what is true. What has replaced it is not a better ability on the part of the American people to analyze information and come to their own conclusions but instead intellectual isolation where we no longer take seriously information that challenges our beliefs.

So is Trump being effective? Yes. Is he being effective at things that are leading to good outcomes? No.

Response by COL Jean (John) F. B. made Oct 7 at 2016 2:42 PM

2016-10-07T14:42:11-04:00

CPT Jack Durish Wow ... I totally agree with Bebe Coe Bertino. Trump has laid bare the gaping wounds of our country. Whether it is he who fixes them or not, they absolutely need top be fixed. As long as we have people like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in office, it will only get worse.

Hopefully, Trump has started a movement for Americans to demand that their representatives do more than just occupy an office. They need to be engaged in fixing our country, despite their political affiliation.

Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Oct 7 at 2016 2:50 PM

2016-10-07T14:50:34-04:00

Not entirely sure what those campaign accomplishment are. From what I've seen his campaign has drawn lines in the sand to completely divide American citizens and alienate huge portions of the voting public. For this he deserves thanks???

Response by MSG Brad Sand made Oct 7 at 2016 3:10 PM

2016-10-07T15:10:04-04:00

Very interesting post. Some very interesting points. This has been the most interesting election cycle ever...or at least in my lifetime. Trump was not my first choice...second or third, eiither...but he did topple the apple cart and that is a VERY good thing.

Here is what has pushed me toward supporting Trump. The first thing was when I was driving with my, then, seven year old daughter told me "I want Donald Trump to win the election!" While shocked, I had to ask her why? Her answer, "I like him because he is funny." Of course I had to ask her, 'Is being funny a good reason to support someone for President?' She answered, "Daddy, I don't trust someone who doesn't have a sense of humor." I DID NOT HAVE ANY THING...especially this cycle...THAT COULD REFUTE HER LOGIC? Her reason was as good...better...than anything else I had actually heard to date.
Also, when I heard the Establishment media pouring out there lies of bigotry and racism...the same things that Hillary decided to call everyone that does not support her...or at least half of us...it just add up to me, that a successful NEW YORK CITY businessman would be successful in that environment IF he was what they were trying to make him out to be? Of course, whenever you actually go back and hear what he said, in context and in its entirety it is pure lies that often is totally generated by either the media or the Clinton campaign? So all there lies makes me wonder what they are so scared of? Last, all the human debris that is lockstep in opposition makes me think that if they do not like him, well he must actually not be too bad? And the last, last, HE IS NOT HILLARY CLINTON. Sometimes, I might not like what he says...or really how he said it...but his words will never be worse than her ACTIONS.

Response by Maj Kevin "Mac" McLaughlin made Oct 7 at 2016 3:42 PM

2016-10-07T15:42:36-04:00

I wouldn't say he destroyed the GOP or even the Bush Family. In fact, I still respect the Bush Family very much. In the end, Trump got a lot of grief out of many people's system, to result in what will essentially become an "We told you so" moment if he loses. If he wins against one of the worst candidates ever to be pushed by the DNC, it won't be saying much. But I can assure you that I will be all up his shit when he discovers how different life is in government and he essentially screws up. By that I mean he I expect him to flip flop once his popularity is affected and the pressure is on to move to the left.

I will give him credit on one thing though. Trump has managed to break the glass ceiling when it comes to effectively countering many of the outlandish statements made against him. The accusations of racism, bigotry, and sexism is crap and the standard MO of the DNC. Most GOP members pander after they say something which can be construed in a different way (and not what they intended). I have come out to defend those attacks, despite the fact I do not want him as the GOP candidate. Especially when the media/DNC neglects to demonstrate the same behavior from the opposing candidate. I've never seen the hypocrisy as bad as I've seen this time around.

Response by CPT Pedro Meza made Oct 7 at 2016 5:45 PM

2016-10-07T17:45:11-04:00

My response is from Zun Tzu, find your enemies weakness then divide them then conquer them. Trump has exposed our greatest weakness and that is what I taught my students back in the 80's to look for and use. The bad part is that my students back in the 80's came from the middle east and Latin america. This was the reason that I left the retired reserves and re-enlisted. So now I watch and wait to see which students will act first those here or those over seas.

Response by SSG Warren Swan made Oct 7 at 2016 7:01 PM

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“In June of last year, Trump entered the race for president. In just a little over a year, Trump has single handedly defeated the Republican party. He did so thoroughly. In fact, he did so in such a resounding way that the Republican Party now suffers from an identity crisis. He literally dismantled the party. Trump even dismantled and dismissed the brand and value of the Bush family". I'm going to agree with this statement. He came in wanting to be the "outsider" and he was successful at it. He made the "establishment" and so called "outsider candidates" show their true colors that they were establishment candidates. Now the love affair with the Bush family? Not sure if that is completely true. When this is over and Trump is a memory, they will be back at it nitpicking everything he said he would do and didn't, how he didn't represent America's values, but took care of his no matter what. We're not done with the Bush family yet.
Trump has Obama petrified that Trump will dismiss programs that weren’t properly installed using proper law. I disagree with that. Obama isn't worried, and to make it worse, as a former President, he'll get what he didn't in office; a unified congress. Short of EO's, congress will put the brakes on most of what Trump wants or thinks he wants to do making him President in name only. Bush and Obama will be drinking scotch together laughing together. Remember America had the Kennedy's now it's the Bush family. In this case, congress holds all the cards to include the "Trump" card. World leaders are afraid of him? Sure as long as you're not Russian. Putin is going to be his "best friend", and put that dagger in his back. Putin likes no one, and doesn't respect money. Why would he when he controls a country and he's FAR from broke?

I also disagree that this is the worst racial time in America. I had to ask my parents about this and they said the civil rights era was worse. Much like now, cops could beat you senseless, and no one would dare convict one even if they still had blood on their hands. They couldn't eat with you back then. Couldn't get effective work or if they did it was for lower wages. My parents are in your age group, so they're no spring chickens. One from the boot, and the other from DC. So the racial "divide" is more of a subjective item depending on where you were and what side of the baton or water hose you were on.

On the tv front, Trump shouldn't get credit for something everyone should know once that remote is in your hand. "Fair and Balanced" is never "fair and balanced" on any news network. I cannot remember when this happened, but it was recent; a cop kills a black man and the news runs with it and riles everyone up. At the same time, five white men were killed by police, and nothing was said. So the propaganda machine keeps making minorities "the big bad man", making a point to stretch out coverage of it, when anyone with a brain knows cops are killing whites also. I also disagree with you on the HS football team. Kids are on various social network sites that have many speaking on the subject. You cannot expect them not to see it, and some might actually know someone who was killed for no good reason. With this those kids are able to make a decision on their own, and it is the right decision in their hearts and minds.
America wants you to be an individual, and express yourself. Problem with that is once you step out, you're opening yourself to a lot of pain from the very folks who want everyone not to be the cookie cutter person, and society will do it's best to embarrass, humiliate, tear you down emotionally, until you "fall back in line".

I agree with some of what you said and disagree on others at the same time. Experiences vary, and what I say is hard, or that person is a POS, you'll tell me to ruck up and move out. Trump won't last as long in the minds of people like Bernie will. Now he was truly off the wall, and captivated the millennials unlike Trump or another candidate, nad some of his weirder ideas will be debated ten plus years from now. Long after most of this batch of "candidates" is gone.

Response by SGM Barry Kindred made Oct 7 at 2016 7:30 PM

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I agree!!!

Response by Maj John Bell made Oct 7 at 2016 8:06 PM

2016-10-07T20:06:40-04:00

I hope we are at the beginning of rock bottom. The point where the high school prom queen and all-state HS quarterback are now addicted to crystal meth and are prostituting themselves, stealing from loved ones, scratching holes in their skin, and finding their teeth falling out. Then they realize they are going to die if they don't change. I hope it isn't too late for us.

Response by SPC Erich Guenther made Oct 8 at 2016 12:34 AM

2016-10-08T00:34:23-04:00

Yeah I think the day of reckoning is comming for the Democrats pretty soon they barely missed it this election but you can't keep lying your arse off to the public, making promises you never intend to keep, fielding substandard candidates, constantly threatening and censoring the opposition, etc. Both parties are guilty of this but I think there are a lot more malcontents on the Democratic Party side.. I personally think the TERM LIMITS Amendment to the Constitution was to prevent against family dynasties from the Oval Office but it was not written that way. The Amendment needs to be rewritten to include prohibitions on direct offspring and spouses from running after someone from your family (or spouse) occupies the Oval Office for 8 years. I don't think Trump brought anything special to the campaign other than his social retardation. I think it could have easily been someone else with a better background that spotted the discontent and the election would have been wrapped up in May instead of being this close in October.

Response by PFC Pamala (Hall) Foster made Oct 8 at 2016 9:32 AM

2016-10-08T09:32:25-04:00

What accomplishments? He's alienated a lot of people, angered veterans, women, and just overall made the nation question his fitness to even run for 'village idiot'

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 9 at 2016 12:26 AM

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Undoubtedly. I am expectating good things... great things... CPT Jack Durish

Response by Cpl Justin Goolsby made Oct 12 at 2016 3:45 PM

2016-10-12T15:45:22-04:00

Win... and I would say thank you for posting this and I hope you don't mind me sharing it. I wasn't the biggest Trump supporter, I was hoping Carson would have made more of an impact. But my biggest thing was I could see why people liked Trump. It wasn't for all the negative labels people want to attach to him, it's because he was literally calling out the establishment government. I don't know if he'll be a good President. But what I do know is that for the past 2 years, both the Republican party and the Democrat party have tried to destroy him and he is still kicking. They are both afraid of him which makes me believe he may very well be what America needs at this point in time.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 15 at 2016 4:25 AM

2016-10-15T04:25:42-04:00

I mentioned in an earlier post some weeks ago that this election cycle could spell a major overhaul of the GOP like when there was the party switch back in the 60s...... how this overhaul will work who knows, but the former remedies for the prognosis given to itself did not help the GOP in the slightest since they chose to ignore their own recommendations.

Response by SN Charles Farley made Oct 17 at 2016 6:02 AM

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I THINK TRUMP IS THE ONLY PERSON CAN SAVE THIS COUNTRY FROM ALL COURRPTION IN WASHINGTON