With a (retired) Marine as SECDEF & a Marine as JCS Chairman, it's a historic first. What does the RP community think? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think <div class="images-v2-count-2"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-123343"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwith-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=With+a+%28retired%29+Marine+as+SECDEF+%26+a+Marine+as+JCS+Chairman%2C+it%27s+a+historic+first.+What+does+the+RP+community+think%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwith-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AWith a (retired) Marine as SECDEF &amp; a Marine as JCS Chairman, it&#39;s a historic first. What does the RP community think?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="2386043cc0fe27395c68929cbf9db73a" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/123/343/for_gallery_v2/61010c55.JPG"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/123/343/large_v3/61010c55.JPG" alt="61010c55" /></a></div><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-2" id="image-123344"><a class="fancybox" rel="2386043cc0fe27395c68929cbf9db73a" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/123/344/for_gallery_v2/0aef57c8.JPG"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/123/344/thumb_v2/0aef57c8.JPG" alt="0aef57c8" /></a></div></div> Tue, 06 Dec 2016 23:46:39 -0500 With a (retired) Marine as SECDEF & a Marine as JCS Chairman, it's a historic first. What does the RP community think? https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think <div class="images-v2-count-2"><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-1" id="image-123343"> <div class="social_icons social-buttons-on-image"> <a href='https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwith-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think%3Futm_source%3DFacebook%26utm_medium%3Dorganic%26utm_campaign%3DShare%20to%20facebook' target="_blank" class='social-share-button facebook-share-button'><i class="fa fa-facebook-f"></i></a> <a href="https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=With+a+%28retired%29+Marine+as+SECDEF+%26+a+Marine+as+JCS+Chairman%2C+it%27s+a+historic+first.+What+does+the+RP+community+think%3F&amp;url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.rallypoint.com%2Fanswers%2Fwith-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think&amp;via=RallyPoint" target="_blank" class="social-share-button twitter-custom-share-button"><i class="fa fa-twitter"></i></a> <a href="mailto:?subject=Check this out on RallyPoint!&body=Hi, I thought you would find this interesting:%0D%0AWith a (retired) Marine as SECDEF &amp; a Marine as JCS Chairman, it&#39;s a historic first. What does the RP community think?%0D%0A %0D%0AHere is the link: https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think" target="_blank" class="social-share-button email-share-button"><i class="fa fa-envelope"></i></a> </div> <a class="fancybox" rel="e5ce4347c3eed566614178c29cb8a34d" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/123/343/for_gallery_v2/61010c55.JPG"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/123/343/large_v3/61010c55.JPG" alt="61010c55" /></a></div><div class="content-picture image-v2-number-2" id="image-123344"><a class="fancybox" rel="e5ce4347c3eed566614178c29cb8a34d" href="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/123/344/for_gallery_v2/0aef57c8.JPG"><img src="https://d1ndsj6b8hkqu9.cloudfront.net/pictures/images/000/123/344/thumb_v2/0aef57c8.JPG" alt="0aef57c8" /></a></div></div> MSgt George Cater Tue, 06 Dec 2016 23:46:39 -0500 2016-12-06T23:46:39-05:00 Response by SFC George Smith made Dec 6 at 2016 11:51 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139079&urlhash=2139079 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Looks Good For Our Marine Brothers... Maybe they Can Tighten up Some of the Lax Conduct in the Military And Reserve Components... And National Guard SFC George Smith Tue, 06 Dec 2016 23:51:17 -0500 2016-12-06T23:51:17-05:00 Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 6 at 2016 11:56 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139091&urlhash=2139091 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Maybe you guys will actually get enough funding to purchase equipment that was actually made in this century for once. SFC Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 06 Dec 2016 23:56:04 -0500 2016-12-06T23:56:04-05:00 Response by SMSgt Lawrence McCarter made Dec 7 at 2016 12:01 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139106&urlhash=2139106 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Looks like some good staffing to Me ! SMSgt Lawrence McCarter Wed, 07 Dec 2016 00:01:22 -0500 2016-12-07T00:01:22-05:00 Response by SN Greg Wright made Dec 7 at 2016 12:03 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139109&urlhash=2139109 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;m a Sailor. I live to make fun of The Passengers. I&#39;ve seen a Marine vomit pizza, then bend over and eat a piece of the pepperoni. I came to blows with a particular Marine several times in the Bosun locker of my ship...and I had that very same Marine prevent a local in Phuket from stabbing me.<br /><br />I can&#39;t imagine better picks for the Marines, for Sailors. For Soldiers. For Airmen. CNO Richardson is a pandering toady that let Mabus gut Naval tradition. And the other service chiefs simply don&#39;t have the gravitas that Mattis does. Trump did this right. SN Greg Wright Wed, 07 Dec 2016 00:03:13 -0500 2016-12-07T00:03:13-05:00 Response by CAPT Kevin B. made Dec 7 at 2016 12:29 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139151&urlhash=2139151 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>They get the Seabee support any day. I spent some time at the War College at Quantico. The Marines deeply study and innovate warfare thinking and execution. They don&#39;t have time for sidebar stuff. So I wish them both well in their critical service to this Nation. CAPT Kevin B. Wed, 07 Dec 2016 00:29:08 -0500 2016-12-07T00:29:08-05:00 Response by TSgt David L. made Dec 7 at 2016 1:09 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139201&urlhash=2139201 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Great post @MSgt George Cater! I think that our world standing is a up a few notches and they aren&#39;t even in charge yet. Come f%ck with us NOW! TSgt David L. Wed, 07 Dec 2016 01:09:29 -0500 2016-12-07T01:09:29-05:00 Response by Sgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2016 1:23 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139219&urlhash=2139219 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div><a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1006455" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1006455-msgt-george-cater">MSgt George Cater</a> Both Marines will do what Marines do. They will carry out their duties to the best of their abilities. Great choices for our country! Sgt Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 07 Dec 2016 01:23:45 -0500 2016-12-07T01:23:45-05:00 Response by Cpl Jeff N. made Dec 7 at 2016 6:25 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139387&urlhash=2139387 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If you all don&#39;t watch it the Marine Corps will be running the entire show before too long. Cpl Jeff N. Wed, 07 Dec 2016 06:25:04 -0500 2016-12-07T06:25:04-05:00 Response by SCPO Jason McLaughlin made Dec 7 at 2016 6:57 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139422&urlhash=2139422 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Something tells me that the Navy&#39;s Amphibious Fleet will be growing over the next few years...... SCPO Jason McLaughlin Wed, 07 Dec 2016 06:57:39 -0500 2016-12-07T06:57:39-05:00 Response by COL David Turk made Dec 7 at 2016 7:29 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139488&urlhash=2139488 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I hope the navy didn&#39;t piss these guys off on their way up the ladder!<br />(That&#39;s suppose to pass for humor.) COL David Turk Wed, 07 Dec 2016 07:29:26 -0500 2016-12-07T07:29:26-05:00 Response by 1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2016 7:48 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139536&urlhash=2139536 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>At that level I doubt their service component means much. It&#39;s a point of pride for the USMC and that&#39;s fine. During my career CJCS has been tapped from every service and SecDef has been a mix of veterans and civilians. I never perceived anything was better or worse because one was from one service or another. At the tactical level I doubt the average Joe will experience any difference due to these guys albeit impressive Marine service. 1SG(P) Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 07 Dec 2016 07:48:03 -0500 2016-12-07T07:48:03-05:00 Response by Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen made Dec 7 at 2016 8:27 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139647&urlhash=2139647 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Being an Air Force guy whose background was primarily SAC I hadn&#39;t really been exposed to Marines until I was assigned to HQUSCENTCOM. At this assignment I learned that Marines were extremely dedicated professionals and also learned a lot from those who worked for me. When after about a year, Gen. George Crist was assigned as CENTCOM Commander I learned what it was like to work for a Marine. He was an extremely demanding individual, and his entire focus was on accomplishing the mission. For good or bad, I was one of the individuals that Gen Crist had confidence in and this fact allowed me some insight into his leadership style. Give a Marine a mission and the job will get done, may not always be pretty, but mission gets accomplished. Have no doubt that this will be the case with these two! Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen Wed, 07 Dec 2016 08:27:09 -0500 2016-12-07T08:27:09-05:00 Response by CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2016 9:36 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139821&urlhash=2139821 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>If Gen Mattis makes it and Gen Dunford stays in place we should have some good things for military. Less incursion without clear objectives. Less social engineering. Smarter procurement. More cash for O&amp;M with emphasis on M (especially aviation and depot). Improved morale. Less PC and more straight talk. CWO3 Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 07 Dec 2016 09:36:52 -0500 2016-12-07T09:36:52-05:00 Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2016 9:44 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2139855&urlhash=2139855 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Mattis isn&#39;t SECDEF yet. He still has to be confirmed by the Senate, and he still needs Congress to pass a law giving him a waiver of the seven year mandatory waiting period. CW3 Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 07 Dec 2016 09:44:14 -0500 2016-12-07T09:44:14-05:00 Response by PO1 Dallas Shewmaker made Dec 7 at 2016 10:43 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2140025&urlhash=2140025 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Marine, Navy, Army, Air Force... doesn&#39;t matter. Mattis is a true warrior with our entire military in his capable hands. He&#39;s a true Marine and for this, I thank God that we have a man like him in charge. It&#39;s good to see a battle tested warrior whose memory is still fresh on the needs of the fellow warriors he is tasked to lead. PO1 Dallas Shewmaker Wed, 07 Dec 2016 10:43:16 -0500 2016-12-07T10:43:16-05:00 Response by LTC Stephen C. made Dec 7 at 2016 11:07 AM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2140097&urlhash=2140097 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Works for me, <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="1006455" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/1006455-msgt-george-cater">MSgt George Cater</a>. I think <a class="dark-link bold-link" role="profile-hover" data-qtip-container="body" data-id="21661" data-source-page-controller="question_response_contents" href="/profiles/21661-2531-field-radio-operator">Sgt Private RallyPoint Member</a> expressed it well. LTC Stephen C. Wed, 07 Dec 2016 11:07:05 -0500 2016-12-07T11:07:05-05:00 Response by LCpl Donald Faucett made Dec 7 at 2016 12:27 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2140315&urlhash=2140315 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>The General will give it to you straight, expect every body do your job, and the standards, lol, well expect the bar to rise LCpl Donald Faucett Wed, 07 Dec 2016 12:27:18 -0500 2016-12-07T12:27:18-05:00 Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2016 1:55 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2140535&urlhash=2140535 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>There&#39;s also this development as well. <br /><br /><a target="_blank" href="http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/kelly-dhs-trump-report">http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/kelly-dhs-trump-report</a> <div class="pta-link-card answers-template-image type-default"> <div class="pta-link-card-picture"> <img src="https://d26horl2n8pviu.cloudfront.net/link_data_pictures/images/000/126/733/qrc/635899405832805043-20140226-mct-genjohnkelly01jpg?1481136940"> </div> <div class="pta-link-card-content"> <p class="pta-link-card-title"> <a target="blank" href="http://www.militarytimes.com/articles/kelly-dhs-trump-report">Report: Retired Gen. John Kelly is Trump&#39;s pick for Homeland Security secretary</a> </p> <p class="pta-link-card-description">The former U.S. Southern Command head is the third high-profile military name picked for a Trump Cabinet post.</p> </div> <div class="clearfix"></div> </div> SSG Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 07 Dec 2016 13:55:42 -0500 2016-12-07T13:55:42-05:00 Response by SGT Damaso V Santana made Dec 7 at 2016 3:30 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2140786&urlhash=2140786 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>You left out Retired Marine General John Kelly as head of Homeland Security.<br />All 3 great choices! SGT Damaso V Santana Wed, 07 Dec 2016 15:30:37 -0500 2016-12-07T15:30:37-05:00 Response by LTC Stephen B. made Dec 7 at 2016 4:20 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2140915&urlhash=2140915 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>And Marine in charge of Homeland Security... Ooh-RAH!!! LTC Stephen B. Wed, 07 Dec 2016 16:20:00 -0500 2016-12-07T16:20:00-05:00 Response by Cpl Mark A. Morris made Dec 7 at 2016 5:26 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2141061&urlhash=2141061 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>MSgt,<br /><br />This is great news for our country and our allies across the globe. <br /><br />M. Morris RVT Cpl Mark A. Morris Wed, 07 Dec 2016 17:26:45 -0500 2016-12-07T17:26:45-05:00 Response by SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 7 at 2016 5:40 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2141103&urlhash=2141103 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I think it&#39;s about time a soon to be CiNC surrounds himself with warriors and Acadamians vs just Ivy League nerds. SMSgt Private RallyPoint Member Wed, 07 Dec 2016 17:40:32 -0500 2016-12-07T17:40:32-05:00 Response by SPC Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 8 at 2016 8:12 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2144093&urlhash=2144093 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>President-Elect Trump&#39;s Military Cabinet<br /><br />Secretary of Defense - General James N. Mattis, USMC<br />Secretary of Homeland Security - General John F. Kelly, USMC<br />National Security Adviser - Lieutenant General Michael T. Flynn, USA<br />Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff - General Joseph F. Dunford, USMC<br />CIA Director - Captain Mike Pompeo, USA<br />Attorney General - Captain Jeff Sessions, USAR<br />UN Ambassador - Governor Nikki Haley (Husband is an ARNG Captain)<br />Chief Strategist &amp; Senior Counsel - Steve K. Bannon, Officer USN (Can&#39;t find rank)<br /><br />The rest of his cabinet is primarily business focused so far, which is to be expected. SPC Private RallyPoint Member Thu, 08 Dec 2016 20:12:27 -0500 2016-12-08T20:12:27-05:00 Response by 1stSgt Matthew Olivolo made Dec 9 at 2016 4:14 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2146180&urlhash=2146180 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I&#39;ve never been more confident in a Presidential Cabinet than I am today! Semper Fidelis! 1stSgt Matthew Olivolo Fri, 09 Dec 2016 16:14:57 -0500 2016-12-09T16:14:57-05:00 Response by Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth made Dec 12 at 2016 12:24 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2152504&urlhash=2152504 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>As far as SECDEF...not too happy about it...now wait before you lambast me. The man noiminated is extremely qualified but too close from the fight. I am for it if they meet the mandatory whatever year gap prior to taking the position. That way, budget priorities have changed, leadership priorities have changed, and a myriad of old boy networking has been adjusted. I have nothing against the choice but I do think the civilian positions should have to wait. As far as two Marines in those positions (extremely qualified by the way)...could care less as long as they are qualified...don&#39;t care what service they come from at that level. JCS...may the best man win!!! Not bad picks for Trump. Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth Mon, 12 Dec 2016 12:24:16 -0500 2016-12-12T12:24:16-05:00 Response by CPT Kurk Harris made Dec 12 at 2016 1:01 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2152641&urlhash=2152641 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Awesome choices. My experience with Marines has been that they are generally consummate professionals. Never had problems with any except once in a bar in Pusan...but that&#39;s a different story. CPT Kurk Harris Mon, 12 Dec 2016 13:01:21 -0500 2016-12-12T13:01:21-05:00 Response by SSG Alfonso Pagan made Feb 8 at 2017 2:41 PM https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-a-retired-marine-as-secdef-a-marine-as-jcs-chairman-it-s-a-historic-first-what-does-the-rp-community-think?n=2323462&urlhash=2323462 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>That this is a great time for Marines to ask for money and equipment. SSG Alfonso Pagan Wed, 08 Feb 2017 14:41:04 -0500 2017-02-08T14:41:04-05:00 2016-12-06T23:46:39-05:00