https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-the-change-to-the-selection-to-cgsc-should-the-army-get-cgsc-accredited-and-award-a-masters-degree-like-other-services <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Unlike the other service schools who award Masters degrees for completing their Intermediate Level Education (ILE), students at the Command and General Staff College (CGSC) at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, must take additional classes to complete a Masters. Either that or they must opt to take civilian Masters degrees at the same time they are in school. If the Army is being selective again about who gets into CGSC, is it time to award those who complete the course a Masters degree which is fitting to the level of education supposedly being provided? Does a follow on to the School of Advanced Military Studies then, provide another Masters or work towards a PhD, something the military is espousing as desired in the senior ranks? Tue, 18 Mar 2014 03:59:50 -0400 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-the-change-to-the-selection-to-cgsc-should-the-army-get-cgsc-accredited-and-award-a-masters-degree-like-other-services <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Unlike the other service schools who award Masters degrees for completing their Intermediate Level Education (ILE), students at the Command and General Staff College (CGSC) at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas, must take additional classes to complete a Masters. Either that or they must opt to take civilian Masters degrees at the same time they are in school. If the Army is being selective again about who gets into CGSC, is it time to award those who complete the course a Masters degree which is fitting to the level of education supposedly being provided? Does a follow on to the School of Advanced Military Studies then, provide another Masters or work towards a PhD, something the military is espousing as desired in the senior ranks? COL Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 18 Mar 2014 03:59:50 -0400 2014-03-18T03:59:50-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-the-change-to-the-selection-to-cgsc-should-the-army-get-cgsc-accredited-and-award-a-masters-degree-like-other-services?n=78071&urlhash=78071 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Absolutely! As a former ILE instructor I pushed this when I was there.  The problem seems to be another political problem more than a technical one.  The other services award Masters degrees for their PME.  The Army doesn't apparently because there is some deal with Central Michigan University that says if you want your Masters, you have to pay them for it.  Army War College however awards us with a Masters in Strategic Studies, which is good, but it means that we/Army are one step behind the other services who award their CGSC equivalent graduates with Masters degrees.  I'm in a Masters program right now through Columbia Southern University and they will give graduate level credit for my PME but I had to get a transcript from Leavenworth and send it to them.  And even then it is only worth 15 credit hours.  Woefully inadequate compared to the work we all put in to get through CAS3 and CGSC. LTC Private RallyPoint Member Tue, 18 Mar 2014 07:12:03 -0400 2014-03-18T07:12:03-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-the-change-to-the-selection-to-cgsc-should-the-army-get-cgsc-accredited-and-award-a-masters-degree-like-other-services?n=78450&urlhash=78450 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>For those interested, the Command and General Staff College (CGSC) grants the Master of Military Arts and Science (MMAS) Degree based on the information contained below:<br><br><a target="_blank" href="http://www.cgsc.edu/doa/gdp.asp">http://www.cgsc.edu/doa/gdp.asp</a><br><br>LTC Halvorson, could you provide the information on other services granting corresponding degree with levels of military education program...would be interested in reading through their requirements.<br><br>This is an ongoing discussion for USASMA students. :) SGM Matthew Quick Tue, 18 Mar 2014 16:05:35 -0400 2014-03-18T16:05:35-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-the-change-to-the-selection-to-cgsc-should-the-army-get-cgsc-accredited-and-award-a-masters-degree-like-other-services?n=113301&urlhash=113301 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>I would say yes, however in ECCC we had the opportunity to get a Master's through the local college at Rolla if we enrolled in their program while attending ECCC. Depending on your major you would when stay on location to finish your degree for up to six months (if I remember correctly). Should you be offered that for CGSC or should CGSC be enough to grant a degree?<br /><br />I did not take advantage of the degree while at ECCC because I already had a Master's Degree and was working on my PhD coursework at the time. Should the Army expect me and other likes me to go for another degree during ILE or CGSC? LTC Private RallyPoint Member Mon, 28 Apr 2014 00:02:45 -0400 2014-04-28T00:02:45-04:00 https://www.rallypoint.com/answers/with-the-change-to-the-selection-to-cgsc-should-the-army-get-cgsc-accredited-and-award-a-masters-degree-like-other-services?n=116192&urlhash=116192 <div class="images-v2-count-0"></div>Sir, though I was too junior to attend any of these courses, based on your insights here, my answer would be yes -- that CGSC should get accredited. I'd be interested to know people's opinions as well on whether Big Army is going to be putting more emphasis than before on grad and post-grad academic degrees, in terms of promotion. Note: I don't have data on whether this focus fell off at all during the wars. CPT Aaron Kletzing Thu, 01 May 2014 08:36:43 -0400 2014-05-01T08:36:43-04:00 2014-03-18T03:59:50-04:00