Posted on Sep 13, 2016
Would an E9 comply if ordered to attention by an O1?
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Not quite a baby-face LT story but still bears repeating.
Years ago I was at a gas station on a Naval Weapons Station. A few people were utilizing the gas pumps. One a Seabee from the neighboring NCBC, another was a fleet officer. Both were in uniform, the Ensign wearing his cover, the Seabee was not. The ensign called out "shipmate", the Seabee ignored him. The ensign again called out shipmate, again, the Seabee ignored him. Frustrated l, the ensign marched over and started reaming out the Seabee chief for not responding to his call of shipmate, then continued for not wearing his cover. The chief calmly finished pumping his gas, paid for his gas and drove away.
Moral of the story? Know who you are talking to. Call a Seabee shipmate? You will get ignored.
Years ago I was at a gas station on a Naval Weapons Station. A few people were utilizing the gas pumps. One a Seabee from the neighboring NCBC, another was a fleet officer. Both were in uniform, the Ensign wearing his cover, the Seabee was not. The ensign called out "shipmate", the Seabee ignored him. The ensign again called out shipmate, again, the Seabee ignored him. Frustrated l, the ensign marched over and started reaming out the Seabee chief for not responding to his call of shipmate, then continued for not wearing his cover. The chief calmly finished pumping his gas, paid for his gas and drove away.
Moral of the story? Know who you are talking to. Call a Seabee shipmate? You will get ignored.
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Yup, the law is the law, let's hope second Louie is not a raving dick (been known to happen). Moving on...
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I use to work in the command group of my battalion and anytime any LTs or CPTs were getting chewed out by our CSM they stood at parade rest
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Its the rank you respect not the man commissioned and warrant have that right non commissioned will comply.
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He should comply with the order but the XO and CO would be visited immediately after the disrespectful public humiliation!
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I can only speak as to how my father handled a similar circumstance, as a senior master sargent in the Air Force. And that was to throw the lieutenant out of his office until he understud the meaning of seniority. And I do mean he threw him "physically" out.
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He would have to because of the enlisted - officer protocol but I'm sure that there would be something said in private !!
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That O1 has lost his mind!! From my past experience I saw a fresh out of training 2lt get mad about comments being made and told the CSM to watch it and at ease, man did that CSM put him in his place and strike fear into that sorry piece of shit, mind you the 2lt fell behind in a platoon run. Then shortly after the battalion commander caught wind of the situation and dug into that butter bar like nobody's business it was by far the best run I had had!!
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Yes, at least from my experience in the Marines. However, I must say senior leadership in the Marines would never have to be corrected. The senior leadership set great examples and really exemplified what leaders are.
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That butter bar needs a quick hip pocket class on the unspoken rules of ranks
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I ran it on the similar situation. I respectfully ran him up on side and down the other because he was going to get my Marines hurt. The SGM and XO took care of the rest... There is a line that must be crossed only when needed but discipline must be regarded and up held...
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