Wounded Warrior Project a Scam?

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 12:27:22 -0500

I just came across this article: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/08/wounded-warriors-project-a-legal-scam/

It talks about how everything they do is contracted out and the officers each have a salary of 100k - 300k. It also talks about how out of all the funds that are donated only ~10% reach the wounded warriors.

This really bothers me because I know my wife and I have done fundraisers and donated to the WWP. Does this affect how you will donate? or where you will donate? Do you actually research the non-profits that you donate to?

I know I dont, but this will definitely make me start.

Wounded Warriors Project A Legal Scam

As we are coming to find out, wounded Vets are big money. Considering I'm 146% disabled, I'm trying to figure out how to tap into this.

Response by SFC James Baber made Dec 30 at 2013 12:39 PM

SFC James Baber — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 12:39:51 -0500

Sir,

1st and foremost I would suggest taking this with a grain of salt, not saying it is wrong, but also not saying it is correct either, we have all experienced the media only telling half the story or even false ones partially due to politics or other agendas, I would wait until further investigation or details are validated.

I have also been a big supporter of this and many other military related organizations that have been accused of wrong doing only to be vindicated later, the Red Cross has had this happen to them numerous times over the years.

Response by LTC Jason Strickland made Dec 30 at 2013 12:42 PM

LTC Jason Strickland — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 12:42:31 -0500

Phillip,

You're absolutely right about doing the research to where you donate!

Full disclosure: I work for a nonprofit called Project Sanctuary. In fact, the author of the article you're referencing is doing a piece on our nonprofit in the near future. We are committed to full financial transparency and you'll see that this year 85% of the funds we received went directly to those we serve: military and veteran families. We're extremely proud of our commitment to military families. Check us out at http://www.projectsanctuary.us.

Again, I appreciate your diligence in looking into the nonprofits that you support!

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Response by SGT Dillon Townsel made Dec 30 at 2013 1:03 PM

SGT Dillon Townsel — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:03:42 -0500

If you're looking to research charitable organizations, here's a great resource.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/

I think a lot of people are surprised by the amount of overhead involved in some of these "altruistic" organizations. You can also find fun facts such as the Susan G. Komen CEO taking home $684,717 in 2012. We've all worked hard for our money, so it makes sense to know how you're donating it.

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Response by Capt Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 30 at 2013 1:05 PM

Capt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Dec 2013 13:05:51 -0500

Also to add on: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2013/12/27/282381/

Once again...this is based on the WWP Form 990 for taxes. Im not a tax expert, or even really know how to read one. So if anyone has any insight that would be greatly appreciated.

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Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Dec 31 at 2013 10:21 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 31 Dec 2013 10:21:56 -0500

Sir, this doesn't surprise me. As I have found out over the last several years, many of these so-called non-profits or charities have very high overheads to where very little actually goes to the "cause". I do not intend to make this into a political thing (some may mistake it as that) but many of these same organizations go against what the country is about. WWP happens to be anti-gun and I cannot possibly support any organization who wishes to limit my freedoms.

Response by SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member made Jan 12 at 2014 12:22 AM

SSG(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 12 Jan 2014 00:22:18 -0500

I have been very troubled about the recent discussions about WWP being a scam. I have been giving to WWP even before I joined the military. A family friend of ours was SEAL who gave his life in Afghanistan. He had left in his will for everyone to give to WWP instead of spending money on flowers, etc. We had fundraisers and everything trying to raise money for WWP. I have met many who have been helped by WWP. To say the least this is very confusing, and I am very torn on the information.

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 20 at 2014 11:55 PM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Thu, 20 Mar 2014 23:55:11 -0400

I can personally tell you that the money you donated went to a great cause for us Wounded Warriors. I have just recently attended my first event hosted by the Wounded Warrior Project and it was great. With me being in and out of the hospital from my wounds. I am grateful. My profile picture with me wearing my Wounded Warrior Project hat was taking at a basketball game with the Hawks vs Nuggets. They put all of us wounded warriors in our own Box. We also were able to be in the tunnel when the basketball players ran onto the court. I was able to take a picture with a Game OPS ball. They constantly send me emails informing me of events they are hosting. So for anyone to say it's a scam must be unimformed. When I was wounded, I thought no one cared but my family, but people who have donated showed other wise. Plus it's great to know that I'm not the only wounded soldier who is part of the Wounded Warrior Project that is grateful for the donations. Thanks to all who donated.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 27 at 2014 9:34 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 27 Apr 2014 09:34:13 -0400

Thanks for you service and I am sorry you were turned away

Response by SSG Todd Halverson made Apr 27 at 2014 4:16 PM

SSG Todd Halverson — Sun, 27 Apr 2014 16:16:31 -0400

Sory you were turned away, but they are an organization that specifically deals with post 911 Ves. I know they are very particular on from what type of organizations they donations from. They even go so far as at most of their functions you are not allowed to consume alcohol if you wearing anything that has the WWP logo on it.

Response by SFC Sheldon Silver made Apr 27 at 2014 7:15 PM

SFC Sheldon Silver — Sun, 27 Apr 2014 19:15:40 -0400

I went in for the second time in 1980 retired in 1998
I am 70% disabled and have not worked since retirement.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 23 at 2014 9:08 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Fri, 23 May 2014 09:08:42 -0400

WWP is the best program!

I am going to my first WWP event. God, I need the therapy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qHuLbQTkbaQ

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Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2014 1:33 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Jun 2014 01:33:59 -0400

Doesn't surprise me. They started off as a decent organization but then got into the political garbage. I will never donate to them.

Response by SN Sean Willson made Jun 30 at 2014 8:30 AM

SN Sean Willson — Mon, 30 Jun 2014 08:30:23 -0400

It's ludicrous to refuse "Christian" Christmas cards. It's a Christian holiday. Or am I just missing something here?

Response by SFC William Swartz Jr made Jun 30 at 2014 9:44 AM

SFC William Swartz Jr — Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:44:16 -0400

I have heard some less than flattering things about the WWP and the manner with which the donations collected are spent, like every other Veteran's group or the various donation based groups out there, one must really research them prior to donating to learn where the funds go or how much of the funds are used for payroll/overhead of the organization and how much actually goes to doing what the organization states it does.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 30 at 2014 9:57 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:57:30 -0400

WWP was good to me after I got MedEvaced. They provided me everything I needed during my time of recovery. I think they have lost a bit over the years and monetary donations don't go where they used to, but they did right by so many, you can't discount that.

Response by SSG Daniel Rosploch made Jun 30 at 2014 10:23 AM

SSG Daniel Rosploch — Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:23:52 -0400

The bad attention that WWP receives regarding allocation of donations is widespread. When I joined 6 months ago, I heard about the WWP wasting millions on salaries and whatnot. So I looked into it deeper than just Facebook memes and found out that the company does spend a lot on overhead. They have paid employees who travel the country full-time, helping 9/11 vets. They offer discounts on events and free dinners at restaurants weekly. That stuff costs money.

SSG Robin Rushlo, the reason your cards were turned away is because the WWP is NOT a Christian organization. If they were to distribute any kind of religious-themed materials, they would alienate anyone not associated with that religion. It boils down to remaining neutral both religiously and politically in order to gather more support. People from all affiliations, religions and political parties will be more inclined to donate and support an organization that is neutral rather than a solidly Christian, Islam, Jewish, etc one.

The Facebook bad mouthing reminds me of a similar meme that continues to float around even though it is full of false and out-dated information. Be careful what you believe until you have exhausted all means of research....

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Jun 30 at 2014 10:32 AM

SGT Ben Keen — Mon, 30 Jun 2014 10:32:58 -0400

The WWP is a media machine. They understand the ability for people to turn nothing into something and that is one of the reasons they do refuse some sort of donations; especially if they are classified in a certain categories like "religion" and "politics". They, the PR department of WWP, takes a black and white stance on a lot of what gets out there. If they were to accept a donation of "Christian" Christmas card but not others, they would have to deal with that fall out so their decision is to just say no to all of that.

I will tell you that I personally have a love/hate relationship with the WWP. They are out trying to help but sometimes it seems like it's not reaching the targeted audience.

Response by SSG Douglas Espinosa made Jun 30 at 2014 11:19 AM

SSG Douglas Espinosa — Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:19:40 -0400

2LT Blais,
I myself am a disabled vet and a member of the WWP. So far I can only say good things about them. I recently fell on hard times and could not pay bills, they reached out to me and sent me gift cards so I could at least pay for groceries. They are helping me with trying to find a job again, and randomly call me to just check up on me. They even called me on my birthday to wish me a Happy Birthday.

Response by Cpl Glynis Sakowicz made Jun 30 at 2014 11:36 AM

Cpl Glynis Sakowicz — Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:36:53 -0400

Fisher House would be a better bet for you, as would be most any of the VFW, DAV,or American Legion.
I know that WWP does good, and I know some people who have been helped tremendously by their work, but their scope is pretty narrow as they leave out a LOT of us who were in before 9-11, or recieved injuries outside of the 'sandbox' it seems.
The Fisher house is my favorite charity, as anything that will add to the lives of those they serve, they accept... Christmas Cards included! We just had a drive for travel sized shampoos and such for them, as many of their residents are families that arrive with almost nothing, to be with their wounded. You can find chapters of this group at most VA hospitals

Response by SSG Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 13 at 2014 10:47 AM

SSG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 13 Jul 2014 10:47:36 -0400

I will never donate to them for several different reasons but primarily is they support anti-freedom policies. I used to like them until they started in on the political garbage.

Response by LTC Private RallyPoint Member made Jul 14 at 2014 12:23 AM

LTC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 14 Jul 2014 00:23:11 -0400

So what charities ARE working for our veterans?

Response by SFC Kevin Hopper made Jul 29 at 2014 2:49 PM

SFC Kevin Hopper — Tue, 29 Jul 2014 14:49:42 -0400

I never heard of this I am an Alumni, but do not work for the WWP. As for myself I like to help out Vets and the community...so if this is true I will research.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 12 at 2014 2:22 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 12 Aug 2014 14:22:57 -0400

Capt Private RallyPoint Member: I have heard this before, however, as both an alumni, and an independent contractor for the WWP, I can honestly say that the WWP is an excellent resource for Soldiers. Here's why:

1) WWP does not charge any Soldier who uses their services a dime. It's all completely free.
2) To become a WWP alumni, all you have to do is submit your current ERB, or a DD-214 showing your service. While documentation of injuries or disablement is preferred, it is not required. They take you at your word: You tell them you're disabled, they take you at your word.
3) There are no requirements beyond that.

Some (and this is just the ones I know about) of the services they provide:

IT training and education, including: Introduction to Computer Technology, Introduction to Computer Networking, Introduction to Computer Repair, and Introduction to Computer Security. The WWP also pays for your computer certification exams (A+, Network+, Security+) once you complete those courses. These courses are 100% paid for and free to both Soldiers and their families!

Job Placement services (free to Soldiers)

Resume Services (free to Soldiers)

Outings and Events (free to WWP and their families in most cases), such as Horse back riding, concerts, and Motorcycle Rides (for riders).

There are more programs than this, but these are the ones I have personal experience with.

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Oct 1 at 2014 1:21 PM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 01 Oct 2014 13:21:27 -0400

I've got mixed personal feelings about WWP. The VFW though, has removed it's recommendation of the project now for several years.

Response by MSG Wade Huffman made Oct 1 at 2014 1:34 PM

MSG Wade Huffman — Wed, 01 Oct 2014 13:34:40 -0400

I've not had any direct involvement with them, but here is the review by Charity Navigator. Based on their numbers, it seems that other Veterans organizations are operating much more efficiently.

http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=12842#.VCw67WddWE4

Charity Navigator Rating - Wounded Warrior Project

Wounded Warrior Project is a Human Services charity rated 3 of 4 stars by Charity Navigator. Located in Jacksonville, FL, it is one of 8,286 organizations rated by Charity Navigator.

Response by SPC David S. made Oct 1 at 2014 2:00 PM

SPC David S. — Wed, 01 Oct 2014 14:00:53 -0400

Some view the WWP as a PR juggernaut that squanders donations on an extravagant corporate identity and lifestyle. However the WWP does provide services to vets in a number of ways so they say. I also know that a friend of my father's, COL White, worked with them until he passed away. This guy devoted his entire life to the military community either by serving or helping those who did serve. So I believe there are good people behind the curtain. Unfortunately I have heard both good and bad. As they are as big as they are I only know of one person that was assisted with housing. I dive with a lot of busted up guys with SUDS and no one, but this could be due to the fact that the WWP helps fund other non-profits.

Response by LTJG Robert M. made Oct 2 at 2014 11:42 AM

LTJG Robert M. — Thu, 02 Oct 2014 11:42:34 -0400

WWP is also anti gun, turned down a donation from gun manufacturer

Response by SCPO Larry Knight Sr. made Oct 4 at 2014 9:55 AM

SCPO Larry Knight Sr. — Sat, 04 Oct 2014 09:55:29 -0400

My only mention on this topic is of one that is questionable? I've talked with several members in the Houston Texas area, who claim it actually is a viable program. I question the validity of the program regarding where the funds are going ? I personally have donated $1200 for one year, until it was disclosed to me by person's I can not disclose ethically that it's nothing more than a scam. So I have no longer contributed financial support, for I will not let a fraudulent entity rip of any wounded warrior. I will not hesitate in providing my personal support in any endeavor especially for anyone just needing to go out and blow off some "STEAM". It took me years to get treatment for PTSD, after Vietnam and I'll be the first to tell you that the Veterans Administrations approach is a "JOKE". To sit someone in front of a computer monitor and a Psychologist on the other side of the same, saying how are you today is a travesty . So some one out there how about providing documented proof, that this program is really helping our wounded warriors coming back from the sand box!

Response by LTC Jason Strickland made Oct 5 at 2014 9:28 AM

LTC Jason Strickland — Sun, 05 Oct 2014 09:28:55 -0400

SGT Robert R., there is no doubt that this organization has been subject to a lot of scrutiny. My impact organization, Project Sanctuary, serves military and veteran families and continually spends over 84% of all donations directly on the service we provide to families. We are a Gold Member of GuideStar Exchange, a Better Business Bureau accredited charity, and demonstrating our commitment to fiscal responsibility, accountability and transparency. I invite you, and the others on this thread: MSG Wade Huffman, CMSgt Robert Gates, SCPO Larry Knight Sr., PO1 Private RallyPoint Member, LTJG Robert M., CW5 Private RallyPoint Member, MSG Bill Geiger, and SPC David S. to check us out and see for yourself.
All nonprofits must raise money to provide the services, it's our fiduciary responsibility to be excellent stewards of those contributions - and I'm charged with doing that for our nonprofit.

http://www.projectsanctuary.us

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Response by CPL Butch Hogan made Oct 5 at 2014 11:25 AM

CPL Butch Hogan — Sun, 05 Oct 2014 11:25:59 -0400

yeah, that's a tough question.. I co-founded a Veteran non-profit VetTix.org we are 6 years old and we are currently at 99% , so for every $1 we raise, 99 cents goes back to our program.. However that is hard to maintain and to grow with, this year for example we are spending some money marketing to get more tickets donated to our organization. I can understand how some would be upset at other orgs can sometime operate in the 50-60% range. Have to look at their total impact and where exactly the money is going..

Response by SGT Craig Northacker made Oct 7 at 2014 10:40 PM

SGT Craig Northacker — Tue, 07 Oct 2014 22:40:36 -0400

Hi folks. I was invited to their initial $ 1,000 a plate dinner in NYC. Mr Melia was the original veteran who started it, and he had an excellent program. The gents who came to work with him to set it up came from a nonprofit that was investigated by the NYS Attorney General, and for awhile there was a reference to that on their website.

The 2012 Form 990 on their website showed a $ 49 million profit, with $ 61 million in cash and short term investments and very little in payables. The explosion of cash does not relate to the levels of support maintained elsewhere in the return.

Do the math, and follow the money. They have an incredible fund-raising machine. They also decided within the past year to not fund any veterans prior to 9/11.

I started Vets-Help.org 7 plus years ago, and I have been the primary funder because I did not want to hear about how I spent the money developing our programs. I also had to learn who was real and who was not inside our government, and we have positioned ourselves extremely well now with projects designed to self fund us as we move along. No salaries, either. Feel free to check us out as well, and thank you folks for all the work you do to help our vets. We have one caveat - we help the entire family.

Response by SPC Charles Slininger made Oct 8 at 2014 12:49 PM

SPC Charles Slininger — Wed, 08 Oct 2014 12:49:55 -0400

I am always skeptical of "big name" non-profits due to the sheer marketing that goes behind these efforts and how they have a hard time disclosing their profit/loss margins clearly. I've found more effectiveness on the local level, such as in Minnesota with the Minnesota Military Appreciation Fund (http://www.thankmntroops.org/). I actually have been a beneficiary of this fund as I received a gift from them when I was struggling early on post-college and barely employed. It wasn't a lot as they were very new then as well, but it helped greatly then and I was extremely thankful.

Otherwise my point would be to research any foundation first before putting anything to them. There are many organizations and "non-profits" out there ready to exploit the sacrifices that soldiers, veterans and their/our families have made to serve this country. Sad to say, but always true.

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Response by LTC Jason Strickland made Oct 11 at 2014 8:01 AM

LTC Jason Strickland — Sat, 11 Oct 2014 08:01:46 -0400

SSG Robin Rushlo, I'm sorry your contribution was rejected; however, I understand the complexities as several of the members mentioned in this thread ( Cpl Glynis Sakowicz, SSG Todd Halverson, SSG Daniel Rosploch, SGT Ben Keen, etc.).
I see that you're donating to Military Ministry - a great organization - through your I Spy Cigar business. If you ever want to support an organization that serves military and veteran families, check out Project Sanctuary ( http://www.projectsanctuary.us ). We are always looking to partner with people who have a passion for the plight of our military families in order to reduce divorce, minimize suicide, and eliminate unemployment. Contact me if you want to discuss this further.

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Response by MSG Greg Kelly made Oct 12 at 2014 10:18 AM

MSG Greg Kelly — Sun, 12 Oct 2014 10:18:14 -0400

I already posted my feelings about the WWP and they have not changed even after reading the article. I am not surprised they turned down a donation from a gun manufacture they would say something about image I am sure. That does not mean they are anti-gun but its cool to each his own. Shortly after I got home I received a phone call from the person in my area asking me if I needed money or changes to my home due to my injuries. And this same person calls me regularly and gave me their contact info if I need anything. I am sure this did not happen because I am special. I did make contact about an issue and it was taken care of. I am shocked that some of our brothers and sisters may not be receiving the help they need.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Oct 13 at 2014 4:29 PM

SGT Ben Keen — Mon, 13 Oct 2014 16:29:55 -0400

As someone that works in the Veteran Advocacy space, to me the WWP is in a weird position. Yes, they are probably the best known Veterans' Support Organization in America. Their logo is splashed across everything from clothes to ketchup bottles. Celebrities are on TV helping to ask for funds for the WWP and the fact remains that when it first started, the WWP did some great things providing some much needed things to those service members that found themselves removed from the battle field with little more than the torn uniform on their back.

Fast forward 10 years and personally, I feel the WWP as lost sight of their original object and started taking on more than they can and/or meant to. Stories of the WWP refusing to send someone to pick up a donation because it wasn't of a certain dollar level are everywhere. Veterans are starting to turn away because they feel the WWP has lost touch with them. They have become so big that they aren't approachable. This is a big shame because the Project can really make a strong impact on Veterans if they paused and reevaluated their overall mission.

Personally, I benefited from one of those trips put on the WWP. About 2 years ago, I found myself laid off and stressing because I didn't have a job. That same week I got an email from the WWP saying I could put my name in to be picked for a trip to Chicago to watch the Big 10 Basketball tournament. The next day, I got a call asking for information so they could book my flight and it was awesome. I spent the week watching some great college basketball from the court. They put us in a very nice hotel and paid for our taxis to and from the airport. We toured the city and the 12 of us bounded for that week. But that was it. No follow up from the WWP since. That is where the Project is failing. Sure, that one week was awesome and it did without a doubt help me. But now, 2 years later, nothing. No emails or calls from the Project to see how I am doing and whatnot.

Like I said, I think the WWP has lost sight of their initial objective and have become so big that now rather than being inviting to Veterans we are looking at them as the big elephant in the room and really looking into their intentions.

Response by Lt Col Joe Lewis made Oct 14 at 2014 7:49 PM

Lt Col Joe Lewis — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 19:49:33 -0400

Response by LTC Donald (Don) Bachler made Oct 14 at 2014 9:14 PM

LTC Donald (Don) Bachler — Tue, 14 Oct 2014 21:14:35 -0400

I was once very involved with WWP, but now I want nothing to do with it. I would prefer to leave it at that.

Response by SPC James Mcneil made Jan 14 at 2015 7:58 PM

SPC James Mcneil — Wed, 14 Jan 2015 19:58:56 -0500

This article seems to disprove the theory.

DEBUNKED: Article Purporting Wounded Warrior Project is a ‘Legal Scam’ is False

As an Air Force veteran, and more notably a triple amputee who was wounded in Iraq, I found it appalling when I read the horrible things that the Wounded Warrior Project is being accused of (I did not link to the original article because I didn't want to give...

Response by SPC Robin Price-Dirks made Feb 11 at 2015 2:15 AM

SPC Robin Price-Dirks — Wed, 11 Feb 2015 02:15:41 -0500

Is there anything I can do? I raise mastiffs that are wonderful service dogs and I can make ribbons and small jewelry.

Response by GySgt Private RallyPoint Member made Mar 23 at 2015 2:57 PM

GySgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 23 Mar 2015 14:57:51 -0400

The WWP is a non-profit, but has to be ran like a business, so you'd expect overhead and that if you want quality results, you hire good people for them.

In a for-profit company, the CEO would likely make the amount mentioned as a base salary, but would have a ton of other incentives on top of the base. $300K/annual is not a really high salary when you find out that there are SVPs/VPs (lower level execs) in companies that earn that much.

Based on the assessment by the charity checkers, it looks like they assess WWP as a pretty good, but not great investment. While 57% of the ~$230M annual sounds good, there are plenty of other charities that contribute a higher percentage of their annual revenues.

Response by Cpl Mark McMiller made Mar 23 at 2015 3:51 PM

Cpl Mark McMiller — Mon, 23 Mar 2015 15:51:14 -0400

They are anti-gun rights. I won't donate to them.

Response by Capt Richard I P. made Mar 23 at 2015 6:10 PM

Capt Richard I P. — Mon, 23 Mar 2015 18:10:14 -0400

I prefer the Injured Marine Semper Fi Fund. It's good to compare charities.
WWP
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=12842#.VRCOMNLF_8k
SFF
http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=11708#.VRCOb9LF_8k

Charity Navigator Rating - Wounded Warrior Project

Wounded Warrior Project is a Human Services charity rated 3 of 4 stars by Charity Navigator. Located in Jacksonville, FL, it is one of 8,286 organizations rated by Charity Navigator.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 12 at 2015 11:46 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 23:46:21 -0400

I've heard so much controversy about WWP. I don't know which end is up on this subject. I've heard it began as a serious charity project which supported wounded warriors in various ways. I've heard it keeps most of the donations to pay salaries, expenses, and advertisements. So, what's the real skinny on this charity's?

I Got This from Wikipedia

Charity ratings
The Better Business Bureau's Wise Giving Alliance has accredited WWP as meeting the 20 standards for charity accountability.[24] According to Charity Navigator, WWP allocates 55 percent of its revenue to program expenses and 44.8 percent to fundraising and administrative expenses.[25] WWP received a “D” rating from the American Institute of Philanthropy, C+ by Charity Watch, and "three out of four stars" from Charity Navigator.[26] Although WWP received a “D” rating from the American Institute of Philanthropy, partly due to the small amount of donations that go to wounded veterans, and the fact that the majority of money donated goes to fundraising, salaries, consulting and outside services, meetings and events, and travel. "Depending on the rater, the Wounded Warriors Project seems to have scored low (Charity Watch), high (BBB Wise Giving Alliance) or somewhere in the middle (Charity Navigator)."[26]

Response by SPC Donald Tribble made Apr 12 at 2015 11:58 PM

SPC Donald Tribble — Sun, 12 Apr 2015 23:58:45 -0400

It's a sad situation. They have done so much good for so many Veterans. At best they have some procedural issues n finance and accounting if not out right misuse of monies. I am the founding Director of a 501 (c) (3) providing training to Veterans, First Responders and Victims of Violent Crimes service dog teams. Ethics is everything when asking groups to donate. It's very difficult and we spend a lot of time making sure that we handle finances properly. It is my hope that WWP will come out of this and be able to continue their mission with proper controls in place.

Response by SPC David Shaffer made Apr 13 at 2015 9:48 AM

SPC David Shaffer — Mon, 13 Apr 2015 09:48:24 -0400

I have found the Wounded Warrior Project very helpful. WWP has helped my family and I in many situations that I could find no help elsewhere. They might be under attack, but I know they have helped many soldiers, me being one of them. The problem I can see is the WWP has grown too big with no sound leadership to grow with it. The NPO's are making a big mistake in my opinion by spending so much on merchandise. If a charity is doing their job, their actions will speak louder than words, or merchandise for that matter. I would also like to mention that I only see the negative reviews. What about the positive reviews? I know the title says it all, but when people post things like this I would like to see unbiased reporting that includes both sides of the argument in totality. This allows the readers to look at the issue from a more logical perspective, and make a more informed decision. That is my take on this.

David Shaffer

Response by PO1 Private RallyPoint Member made Apr 22 at 2015 11:47 AM

PO1 Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 22 Apr 2015 11:47:13 -0400

My decision is based on nothing more than personal interaction. At one time i was considering donating and I contacted the organization to get some info. The individual asked me for my name etc., which I provided. Imagine my surprise, when several weeks later, while doing some further checking and I found my name on their site listing me (name and I think town) as a satisfied customer and donor. It took a direct threat from my attorney to get that removed. Turns out I wasn't the only one with that issue.

Let's just say this: WWP is no longer on my radar.

'Nuff said.

Response by CSM Michael Lynch made May 4 at 2015 10:03 AM

CSM Michael Lynch — Mon, 04 May 2015 10:03:30 -0400

Wounded Warrior' Charity Unleashes Hell-On Other Veteran Groups

Are they here to help our wounded warriors or themselves. I haven't attended any of their events or programs. I know they have helped some of our warriors, the articles I see state that they are spending more on the organization members than the wounded warriors. This article seems like they are lawsuit happy and pushing smaller groups out that want to help wounded warriors also.

Isn't there enough room for many groups to assist our veterans across the nation? Maybe the Armed Forces should sue them for using "Wounded Warrior" since it started there and long before WWP was around?

‘Wounded Warrior’ Charity Unleashes Hell—On Other Veteran Groups

What happens when a nonprofit that was started to help veterans becomes the neighborhood bully?

Response by SFC Stephen King made May 4 at 2015 10:32 AM

SFC Stephen King — Mon, 04 May 2015 10:32:50 -0400

Although I do not condone the behavior, from a business (non-profit) I do understand.

Response by TSgt Kevin Buccola made May 4 at 2015 10:35 AM

TSgt Kevin Buccola — Mon, 04 May 2015 10:35:13 -0400

I do not give to these programs - i do my research on each I want to see how much executives and admin costs etc...I am a numbers person - need to see the actual amount or percentages that go to the Veteran.

Response by CPT Bob Moore made May 4 at 2015 10:43 AM

CPT Bob Moore — Mon, 04 May 2015 10:43:29 -0400

I haven't been a fan of the Wounded Warrior Project since I looked at how little they spend out of their budget actually helping veterans. They spend about 57% helping veterans and over 30% on advertising. While their actual operating expenses are a small percentage (somewhere around 5%), they still don't do a very good job in getting money where it needs to be, in my opinion.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2015 10:53 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 May 2015 10:53:24 -0400

Troubling!

Response by SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2015 11:10 AM

SGT(P) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 May 2015 11:10:19 -0400

SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S. this is really sad to read. It looks like Walgreens taking out of business the small community pharmacies.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2015 11:23 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 May 2015 11:23:03 -0400

WWP has been in that arena for years, it has just taken some time to realize it. WWP doesn't like to do anything unless they can put a logo on it and a camera in front of it. A close friend of mine lost both legs a few years ago and many charities helped out in important ways for both family things (gift cards for restaurants, grocery stores, cost of living stuff) or morale things like Itunes gift cards, movies, etc. WWP only hands out logos like t shirts, small cinch bags, etc. They don't help unless they can advertise and their overhead for salary and celebrity endorsers are through the roof.

http://www.tampabay.com/news/business/wounded-warrior-project-spends-58-of-donations-on-veterans-programs/2132493

Wounded Warrior Project spends 58% of donations on veterans programs

Editor's note: As part of a yearlong investigation into charities across the nation, the Tampa Bay Times and its reporting partner, the Center for Investigative Reporting, asked readers in June to suggest nonprofits for closer review. Readers responded with nearly 300 suggestions. In the coming months, the Times and CIR will examine some of those charities and share what we found.

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2015 11:26 AM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 May 2015 11:26:58 -0400

Sounds like it...

Response by CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2015 11:29 AM

CH (MAJ) Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 May 2015 11:29:50 -0400

During my second deployment, I had approximately 30 soldiers sent home from combat wounded. The wounded warrior Project played a huge role in encouraging them through some very difficult times. Like any organization, they have their flaws. I appreciate the fact that there are improvements needed, but let's be careful about throwing stones.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made May 4 at 2015 11:31 AM

LTC Stephen F. — Mon, 04 May 2015 11:31:11 -0400

This indeed is sad but unfortunately it is not very surprising. While WWF meets BBB standards it seems to be proving help to some veterans but primarily focused on maintaining or increasing its "market share" of charitable support for veterans.
I am very careful about which charities I support either with funding or prayer. Personally I pray before I offer support to any charity or ministry. Each legitimate charity files reports with the Federal and applicable state governments for tax purposes. There are a number of charity watchdog groups which post percent of donations used for the charities stated purposes versus admin, marketing, etc., costs. [The Clinton Foundation recently went thru a firestorm of scrutiny for funding sources and percent supporting the intended recipients.] As far as Christian ministries, a good benchmark is the ECFA (Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability) seal.
The percentage of Wounded Warrior Charity funds that goes to the Veterans support programs is 57.7% with 35% of fund going to marketing. [source http://www.charitynavigator.org/index.cfm?bay=search.summary&orgid=12842#.VUePbXDD9aQ

Charity Navigator Rating - Wounded Warrior Project

Wounded Warrior Project is a Human Services charity rated 3 of 4 stars by Charity Navigator. Located in Jacksonville, FL, it is one of 8,286 organizations rated by Charity Navigator.

Response by SPC Fred Krauer made May 4 at 2015 11:36 AM

SPC Fred Krauer — Mon, 04 May 2015 11:36:28 -0400

I stopped supporting them when they refused an interview on a pro 2A radio show because they do not wish to be associated with firearms. Funny, for years they had no problem setting up booths at gun shows around the country. I really don't like how their logo shows up on every type of promotional item available. Water bottles, hoodies, tee shirts, key rings and blankets. It gives the appearance that they care more about self promotion than the wounded. I've seen service members turn their backs on their reps when they show up at Walter Reed. I've also seen guys at Walter Reed wearing shirts that say "I'm a soldier/ marine... not a project."

Response by SGT James Elphick made May 4 at 2015 11:41 AM

SGT James Elphick — Mon, 04 May 2015 11:41:05 -0400

I think the original good that WWP did has been overshadowed by their behavior of late. From the high paid executives, to the lack of funding reaching Veterans, and now this. It seems that the organization has grown too large and, as often happens with these things, they have become greedy. I have always donated to the little guy in town because I feel that you can actually see the results but my opinion of WWP is certainly changing....

Response by MAJ Dallas D. made May 4 at 2015 11:44 AM

MAJ Dallas D. — Mon, 04 May 2015 11:44:29 -0400

I think all anyone needs to know are these 2 things:

1) "Wounded Warriors Project head Steve Nardizzi, has never served,"
2) "$375,000 that Wounded Warrior Project executive director Steven Nardizzi was personally paid in 2013"

Response by CPT Bruce Rodgers made May 4 at 2015 11:50 AM

CPT Bruce Rodgers — Mon, 04 May 2015 11:50:35 -0400

I support DAV and PVA, they actually walk the walk, not just talk the talk

Response by SGT Curtis Earl made May 4 at 2015 11:51 AM

SGT Curtis Earl — Mon, 04 May 2015 11:51:34 -0400

This seems to be par for the course concerning 'charities'. Check out the Susan G. Komen Foundation and the fuckery her company embarks upon.

"In addition to raising millions of dollars a year for breast cancer research, fundraising giant Susan G. Komen for the Cure has a lesser-known mission that eats up donor funds: patrolling the waters for other charities and events around the country that use any variation of "for the cure" in their names.

So far, Komen has identified and filed legal trademark oppositions against more than a hundred of these Mom and Pop charities, including Kites for a Cure, Par for The Cure, Surfing for a Cure and Cupcakes for a Cure--and many of the organizations are too small and underfunded to hold their ground."

Response by GySgt Joe Aguilar, CIA, CCSA, CGAP, CTRP made May 4 at 2015 1:13 PM

GySgt Joe Aguilar, CIA, CCSA, CGAP, CTRP — Mon, 04 May 2015 13:13:52 -0400

I have a hard time understanding how people don't understand what it takes to run an operation of this size. I have personally benefited a few times from WWP. I have a gym membership and have been on events here in the County courtesy of the WWP. If you think that there is no overhead in growing these organizations your sadly mistaken. I have served on the board of a few Not for Profit organizations and I prepare 990's for a a few more. The 57% split is not too bad for a organization with growth goals.
The real issue from this article is the WWP brand. If someone has anything related to the image portrayed by the brand of the WWP then people think it is that organization. So if WWP is spending $100,000 on advertising in that one area and a similar organization has a logo that is close to or a name that is close then people give to them vice WWP who spent the advertising. Therefore lowering the amount of money going toward the veterans because the other non profits also have overhead and effecting WWP's overhead to donation percentage. I see nothing wrong with WWP protecting the brand, the lawyer sending out a cease and desist letter or making a call fits the bill. If you want to complain then take it to the organizations that are using similar logos then fighting about it hence causing everyone more grief, kind of reminds me of my ex-wife.

Response by CW3 Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2015 1:27 PM

CW3 Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 May 2015 13:27:10 -0400

This is very similar to the way the Susan G. Komen foundation operates. They spend too much on "protecting the brand" and not enough on actual charity.

Response by SPC Christian Ziegler made May 4 at 2015 1:31 PM

SPC Christian Ziegler — Mon, 04 May 2015 13:31:15 -0400

The WWP has done nothing in the county I live in or the next county to help Veterans, I have not heard of them doing anything even within a 2 our drive, So I look at there rating and it suck's, that tells me to support the local places that support the Veterans. It's that simple for me. Any non-profit ceo type that makes over 300k from the non-profit was not really in it for the Veterans he was in it for the money. Scouts Out

Response by Capt Mark Strobl made May 4 at 2015 1:34 PM

Capt Mark Strobl — Mon, 04 May 2015 13:34:58 -0400

When any organization threatens the profit margins (or maybe, the payroll) of the WWP, there will be consequences! Do your homework, folks: There are better ways to route your time, talent, and resource$.

Response by TSgt Joshua Copeland made May 4 at 2015 2:27 PM

TSgt Joshua Copeland — Mon, 04 May 2015 14:27:07 -0400

It is really no different than the Susan G. Komen folks suing other NP's for using "For a Cure" or using the same shade of Pink.

Response by MAJ Dallas D. made May 4 at 2015 3:28 PM

MAJ Dallas D. — Mon, 04 May 2015 15:28:02 -0400

FYI - http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/04/28/alex-graham-wounded-warriors-project/

AskNod Issues Retraction and Apology to Wounded Warriors Project

Alex Graham issues public apology to Wounded Warrior Project and All U.S. Veterans.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2015 3:34 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 May 2015 15:34:01 -0400

Most charities only donate a small percentage of the funds they receive. It's crap. Like the ALS ice bucket challenge, which under 10% of funds actually were used for research.

Response by CDR Private RallyPoint Member made May 4 at 2015 4:35 PM

CDR Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 04 May 2015 16:35:45 -0400

Interesting article; thanks for posting, Jan.

I never supported WWP in the past, and now I never will. 57-58% on vets...and a CEO salary of $330k, with 14 other executives earning $150k +/year...are you f**king kidding me?

Disgusting!

Response by CDR Private RallyPoint Member made May 5 at 2015 11:26 PM

CDR Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 05 May 2015 23:26:09 -0400

Yes, they have. With a CEO who never served making $300+k/year, and another 14 executives making $150+/year...combine that with the fact that only roughly 55-57% of the roughly $295M/year they rake in actually going to wounded vets and I would definitely say they have lost their focus.

Response by LTC Stephen C. made May 5 at 2015 11:40 PM

LTC Stephen C. — Tue, 05 May 2015 23:40:02 -0400

COL Charles Williams, according to Charity Navigator, a measly 57.7% of the funds received go toward the services and programs that WWP delivers. Compared to charities performing similar type work, WWP's overall score was 86.11, compared to others performing well into the 90s. These were based on upon statistics for the fiscal year ending 30SEP13. You may wish to review these statistics yourself for a more complete understanding.
I agree with CDR Private RallyPoint Member. It seems as though WWP has lost their way.

Response by MSG David Chappell made May 6 at 2015 7:25 AM

MSG David Chappell — Wed, 06 May 2015 07:25:23 -0400

I was disturbed to hear their stand on the 2nd amendment and gun control. We were disappointed when the Leslie Coleman, PR director for WWP, said they couldn’t come on the show, but that happens. Schedules don’t mesh, things happen, but that’s not uncommon. No big deal. Except that Ms. Coleman said they were declining because we “are related to firearms.”

“While we appreciate the interest in having a WWP representative on your show on Veterans Day we are not able to participate in interviews or activities with media/organizations that are related to firearms,” said Ms. Coleman in her email. The wwp made a statement concerning this but it leaves one wondering

Response by Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS made May 6 at 2015 10:25 AM

Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS — Wed, 06 May 2015 10:25:57 -0400

People seem to be running a lot of math without providing a lot of context to the math.

It looks like 57.7% of the moneys earned go towards vets. How does that compare to similarly sized organizations? As an organization gets bigger, the logistics of said organization get bigger with it, and things like advertising, payroll, and technology are just going to start eating away at that 100% number. What is an acceptable %? 100% is unreasonable. But there has to be a number that actually makes sense below that that is based on logic and the needs of the veterans as well.

That brings us to payroll. We have to staff the organization. There has to be a CEO, and other key positions, and they must be compensated adequately. Using a SIMPLE comparison, a CEO, and any of the C level positions are generally equivilant to those of General level officers, and should probably be compensated at a similar level. Let's say there are 3 of those. The remaining 12 would be at the O6~ level for a nationwide organization. I believe that is a fair assumption for a $300M company.

Again using very simple math, an O7 (@30 years) makes $12500/month +BAH (call it $3k) for about $186k a year. A O6 makes $11k/month which brings them to 168k using similar math. So payroll, isn't necessarily outside norms.

As for whether or not the CEO has served. Does it matter? If he is actually taking care of veterans, increasing the funding available to veterans (which according to the the data appears to be the case), is this an actual issue? We're constantly surrounded by people who didn't actively serve. Many of us are married to those who weren't in the military. Would we have a problem with him if his wife was in? That said, I think this point of argument just needs to go away. He's either qualified or he's not.

Now, as for the litigious parts. I'm split on this. If another organization is reaping the benefits of their advertising, by essentially "trademark infringing" I can understand where they are coming from, however... there's a point where you just become a bully as well. And it sounds like the complaints "may" be valid. However when you use common words as your name, things like this are going to happen.

Response by Capt Mark Strobl made May 6 at 2015 11:39 AM

Capt Mark Strobl — Wed, 06 May 2015 11:39:37 -0400

First, I will have to assume the WWP operates under a 501(c)3 umbrella. To their credit, and by comparison to other charitable organizations, their return to the veterans is substantially higher than most "non-profits." WWP has done a lot of good work for our fellow warriors. And, they've been able to do this through some solid marketing, recruiting, and basically building on a solid business plan... I suppose that last sentence runs in the face of my opening sentence (?)

The heart of our discord lies here: From the average veterans' perspective, the WWP and Keystone Wounded Warriors are supposed to be helping brothers & sisters. It offends us to hear of these military-friendly organizations get into a courtroom brawl. We're all on the same damned team! Aren't we?

At the end of the day, the WWP has blossomed into a corporate model. At this point, they seem to be threatened by smaller & more agile operations --able to more economically execute their mission. Unfortunately, the WWP is simply protecting its marketing share, logos, and business plan.

Do you homework. And choose to participate where your time, talent, and treasure$ are best spent.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 11:41 AM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 May 2015 11:41:53 -0400

I believe in what WWP does, but they are clearly morphing from their core mission to a corporate brand. Browbeating small groups that are doing good work is pretty dark territory for a charity that professes loadly from the rooftops what great work they do. I for one don't want my donations being spent on litigation.

Response by SFC Lawrence Marcus made May 6 at 2015 12:43 PM

SFC Lawrence Marcus — Wed, 06 May 2015 12:43:58 -0400

When the CEO of a charity gets over $350,000, I am disinclined to donate to them. When a Charity spends this much money "Aggressively defending their brand" I am disinclined to donate to them
When a charity doesn't spend much money on what the are formed for, I am disinclined to donate.

Now, having had plenty of experience with WWP, and what they actually do (in my case, what they don't do) I for one do not want anything to do with them anymore. Period.

Do what you want. I am done with them.

Response by MSG William Wold made May 6 at 2015 12:59 PM

MSG William Wold — Wed, 06 May 2015 12:59:42 -0400

When WWP started, there was an outline of the money that that they would hold back for personal use and overhead. Well we all know what percentages are. 50% of $1000 is $500 which is split 3 ways, (three top people); but now that the money coming in exceeds a million, they still haven't adjusted the percentage. I recently sent back their information they sent me saying I will support them when they start adding more to the actual cause rather than living high on the hog.
I was pretty supportive of this organization while my two son's were in Iraq at the same time; you know, just in case. However, one is now out of the military, and currently my son is stateside.
I am from the Vietnam era, and retired, on disability and a pittance of income because of a liberal judge 15 years ago gave my ex spouse 50% of my retirements, both military and civilian. She gets over $25K a year for putting up with me for 24 years. I kinda need to keep money closer to home. If I support any organization, it will be ones that support my era.

Response by CPT Bruce Rodgers made May 6 at 2015 1:44 PM

CPT Bruce Rodgers — Wed, 06 May 2015 13:44:45 -0400

I think the biggest problem that people have with WWP is that they take in so much money, their assistance should be more apparent

Response by SPC Christian Ziegler made May 6 at 2015 2:51 PM

SPC Christian Ziegler — Wed, 06 May 2015 14:51:47 -0400

WWP does nothing here where I live or even in a 2 hour drive. There Founder makes more than a 4 star General x2. They ask every VFW for money large or small. Then sue people. I managed to get a by-law passed in my post that makes it against the rules for us to donate to any org. that not at least 85% of money taken in goes out to Veterans or to help the poor.
What ever happened to people donating there time and effort, not holding there hand. WWP is a JOB to people, there not helping veterans cause it's the right thing to do, nope its a JOB.
SPC Chad Kolod you said you wanted a computer for school did you ever ask the local VFW for help getting one? The DAV can help too. Scouts Out.

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 6 at 2015 2:57 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Wed, 06 May 2015 14:57:08 -0400

They spend 60% on charities. The rest are expenses and salaries. They are sitting on $100,000,000 in investments which curtails other non-profit organizations because they are sucking up a lot of money and sitting on it.

Response by LTC Stephen F. made May 6 at 2015 3:18 PM

LTC Stephen F. — Wed, 06 May 2015 15:18:13 -0400

SPC Kolod, did WWP help you complete your packet for submission to the VA? If they did good for them.
Many years ago the VFW helped me complete the paperwork - they like many other veterans support organizations have well-trained people who are there primarily to help you get into the VA system and help you work out follow-on issues.
If you have not submitted a packet to the VA, I strongly encourage you to do so.
I recommend you check out Veterans Benefits if you have not already done so.
http://benefits.va.gov/benefits/
After that I recommend you take a look at the VA Health webpage.
http://www1.va.gov/health/

Veterans Health Administration

The Veterans Health Administration is America’s largest integrated health care system with over 1,700 sites of care, serving 8.76 million Veterans each year

Response by PO1 Rodney Bracey made May 6 at 2015 3:23 PM

PO1 Rodney Bracey — Wed, 06 May 2015 15:23:36 -0400

So... a charity that is supposedly dedicated to helping wounded veterans is suing other wounded veteran charities because they believe their brand and image are being infringed upon by those charities with similar names and logos?

WWP has become too big for this issue to NOT be about money. They can afford the best lawyers and are nothing more than bullies to the smaller charities.

The best way to help our wounded veterans is to find charities locally. Especially those charities that work with the VA to not only help veterans but their families as well.

Response by PO1 Dustin Adams made May 6 at 2015 3:36 PM

PO1 Dustin Adams — Wed, 06 May 2015 15:36:41 -0400

I have heard mixed reviews from people that have dealt with WWP.

I have no personal experience with WWP.

However, some of their "business" practices are questionable. There are quite a few reports about the amount of money they spend suing other charitable/veteran centric organizations over the use of "wounded warrior" and similarities to the WWP logo.

While I can understand wanting to protect their brand, it would seem they are a bit overzealous and somewhat of a bully about it. Additionally, Veterans are the ones losing out as the plaintiff's and defendant's are usually both non-profit Veteran support organizations spending money that could otherwise be used to support Veterans.

Response by CPL Brian Clouser made May 6 at 2015 5:36 PM

CPL Brian Clouser — Wed, 06 May 2015 17:36:43 -0400

I have heard both bad and good about WWP. I think it depends on rather the person in question got everything they think they deserved.

Response by CPO Sam Gilliland made May 6 at 2015 6:47 PM

CPO Sam Gilliland — Wed, 06 May 2015 18:47:51 -0400

Okay I can't stand quiet anymore. I used to work for WWP until about 6 months ago when I chose to leave due to moving back home. I was a Veterans Services Officer with them. They truly are there to help veterans.

1. 83% of income goes to its 20 different programs.

2. Steve Nardizzi's (CEO) salary is decided by the Board of Directors (all volunteers). That man developed the best not-for-profit out there. No one else even comes close. He works his butt off and so does the entire staff. If you don't believe me, try not paying your dues at your nonprofit and see what happens.

3. Everything that is done for its Alumni is free to the warrior. They truly get the five star treatment.

4. This crap about not standing for the 2nd amendment is crap. Some stupid radio station was trying to get their name out there, no comment does not mean you are against guns. I happen to know for a fact, many of the EVPs have guns. I have many guns never an issue. WWP policy is to no comment. Let their work show for itself.

5. They are there to EMPOWER warriors, not give them handouts. Handing out money does not help anyone. Putting them through a program like TRACK does. If WWP can't do something well, like emergency assistance, they partner with another organization that does it well and grant them money...like Operation Homefront.

6. I always hear I don't like them because they never even looked at my resume. I'm sorry but not every vet is going to get a job. If you want to know how they hire...read the book "Good to Great". The companies business practices follow it to a tee. They get over 2000 applicants per job. Interview process takes months...to ensure they get the right person on the bus.

7. Their VSOs are second to none. Most of them came from other organizations. When one helps you with your claim...they follow that claim all the way until it is complete. They also set up a diary so to ensure they call and give you news. We have all been there, any news on your claim even if nothing to report is good. Most of the time hang ups and errors can easily fixed by calling a VBA Coach or beating down there door....which is fully supported by the Chiefs at WWP and they are given the necessary tools.

8. The organization is only 10 years old. They are not in every state. They try to do things all over but areas get missed. They are growing give them time.

Time to get off my soapbox. I was able to personally help 100s of warriors and get many of them off the streets. You have any questions feel free to message me, I would be happy to answer whatever.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made May 6 at 2015 7:17 PM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 06 May 2015 19:17:14 -0400

There have been some active attempts to falsely portray the WWP as an organization that does not have any interests except for making money.

I can tell everyone here, 1) That is NOT true.
2) The CEO gets paid less than what most CEOs get at other LARGE organizations.
3) More money goes towards helping Soldiers than nearly any other charity out there.
4) Soldiers who are enrolled, their families, and guests of the Soldier, are NEVER charged a fee for ANY service!
5) Immediate family members can use the same educational benefits that the WWP provides to the Soldier for free! This includes wives, children, and even parents if they are dependent on the Soldier or DIRECTLY support the Soldier!
6) It doesn't MATTER what your injury is, or WHERE in the world you got the injury. If you were injured on or after 9/11/2001, you only have to provide a medical document of some sort showing you were injured after that date.
7) WWP has MANY programs and services, including job placement, resume, VA Advocate, Education, get togethers, sport and amusement tickets, sporting events, etc. - all geared toward helping Soldiers, regardless of the type or severity of their injury, participate.

To the naysayers who say their business practices are questionable, or their CEO get's paid too much, or that they don't give enough: I can guarantee you that you don't know what you're talking about and are listening to a false claim that was made a couple of years ago by someone who was either turned down because they weren't actually qualified to be an alumni, or someone who is just a spiteful little b**** looking to smear a really good company doing some REAL good for injured Servicemen and women! Do some research and look it up - I did. The company is way more transparent than 99% of the organizations and companies that are out there, profit or non-profit...

Response by SPC Christian Ziegler made May 6 at 2015 8:05 PM

SPC Christian Ziegler — Wed, 06 May 2015 20:05:17 -0400

Looked up WWP at charitywatch.org and yup I was proven wrong. They moved up from D to a C+. 54% goes to programs 46% to over head. Steven Nardizzi $397,490; Albino Giordano $365,405; Jeremy Chwat $240,364.

They help Veterans, but don't make them out to be saints, they are there to make money of off Veterans and that's that. Scouts Out.

Response by PO1 John Miller made May 6 at 2015 9:50 PM

PO1 John Miller — Wed, 06 May 2015 21:50:13 -0400

I'm sure others have already stated this but here goes.

I haven't personally dealt with WWP but from what I've read they do seem to spend a good deal of their resources suing other veteran assistance non-profits. In my opinion they should use those assets for improving their brand and proving that our wounded warriors should seek assistance from them rather than the next guy.

Response by SFC Ron Chelsy made May 6 at 2015 11:06 PM

SFC Ron Chelsy — Wed, 06 May 2015 23:06:52 -0400

I was already losing faith and trust in WWP because they have not helped me out in the 5 years I have been with them. All they have done for me is post jobs available in the area to my email, the same service I can get from any on line search engine, and once a year they send me a survey to do and give me a hat or window decal saying I am a WWP alumni. After reading this article, I pulled those decals off my truck

Response by TSgt David Holman made May 6 at 2015 11:46 PM

TSgt David Holman — Wed, 06 May 2015 23:46:52 -0400

The big problem is that while it started off as a truly honorable service, with time it has become more of a commercial thing. The things you buy that say "a proceed of sales goes to the wounded warrior project", usually only like 1-2% of the money you spend goes to the project, and of the money that they take in, I would say probably 50% goes to the troops (there are resources online to give exact numbers, but I am way too tired to look them up).

Response by SPC Tiffany Campbell made May 6 at 2015 11:49 PM

SPC Tiffany Campbell — Wed, 06 May 2015 23:49:17 -0400

I have had nothing but good experiences with WWP, for instances I called when my power was going to be shut off bc I didn't have the money to pay. They had it paid within a few hours and sent me a gift card to help with food and baby care products. I ♡ WWP!

Response by SSG Michael O'Malley made May 7 at 2015 10:12 AM

SSG Michael O'Malley — Thu, 07 May 2015 10:12:57 -0400

I am not looking for a response but just want to state my own personal experience with VSOs. I am both a member of the DAV and WWP. In order to be a member of the DAV I had to pay $200 for my lifetime membership the WWP $0. I was a newly retired Vet and asked the DAV to assist in my VA claim I contacted them and gave them all the paperwork the asked for and for 1 week was in great contact. Now a 3 months later whenever I call I must go thru a messaging service and never get a call back. The WWP volunteered to look at my case and I have a rep that contacts me at least once a week for updates on my claim. once the WWP got involved it took 2 months and I was increased in my disability. WWP has also taken my family and I out for dinner and other events and programs with other WWP alumni at no cost. So I am not one to judge on how they spend money. I have received way more from the WWP at no cost to me or my family. Yet the DAV cost us $200 and all I got from them way a card that says Lifetime Member.

Response by SSG Michael O'Malley made May 7 at 2015 10:13 AM

SSG Michael O'Malley — Thu, 07 May 2015 10:13:34 -0400

Response by SSG Michael O'Malley made May 7 at 2015 10:14 AM

SSG Michael O'Malley — Thu, 07 May 2015 10:14:14 -0400

Response by SSG Michael O'Malley made May 7 at 2015 10:15 AM

SSG Michael O'Malley — Thu, 07 May 2015 10:15:19 -0400

Response by MAJ Ken Landgren made May 7 at 2015 4:24 PM

MAJ Ken Landgren — Thu, 07 May 2015 16:24:00 -0400

Wounded Warrior Project complained that they will “suffer irreparable damage to its business, goodwill, reputation and profits.” What word does not belong in that sentence - profits. For every dollar they receive 60 cents goes to charitable events, the rest goes to salaries, expenses, and investments. They are sitting on $100,000,000 of investments. That is odd since it is not going to veterans. They use a lot of money advertising for donations.

Response by LCpl Mark Lefler made May 13 at 2015 2:15 PM

LCpl Mark Lefler — Wed, 13 May 2015 14:15:07 -0400

This is so petty for a charity to do. they've really lost sight of what they're suppose to be about.

Response by PO2 Lester Sullivan made Jun 3 at 2015 1:55 PM

PO2 Lester Sullivan — Wed, 03 Jun 2015 13:55:44 -0400

Yup, think that's how most run:(

Response by SrA Johnathan Kropke made Jun 8 at 2015 9:57 AM

SrA Johnathan Kropke — Mon, 08 Jun 2015 09:57:13 -0400

If this is truly a charity then it shouldn't be focused on people getting bonuses and additional money. If they want to spend additional money it should be spent where the money was intended to start with, the wounded warriors.

Response by SGM Steve Wettstein made Jun 8 at 2015 9:57 AM

SGM Steve Wettstein — Mon, 08 Jun 2015 09:57:50 -0400

I personally haven't seen them help anyone. So I would be reluctant to give my money.

Response by SFC Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 8 at 2015 10:00 AM

SFC Private RallyPoint Member — Mon, 08 Jun 2015 10:00:07 -0400

They turned in to a garbage organization.

If Bill O'rielly quit donated to them, you should know they're up to no good.

Fischer house is were it's at!

Response by MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca made Jun 8 at 2015 10:04 AM

MAJ Robert (Bob) Petrarca — Mon, 08 Jun 2015 10:04:40 -0400

Based on what I've read (and I'll admit it's not extensive, but enough) and heard from fellow vets locally, it sounds like Wounded Warrior has gone the way of a lot of charities where the amount reaching the target audience is not in line with the donations they are pulling in. IMHO, anything below 50% going to the cause needs to be examined. If you're below 50% then that sounds like a lot of overhead, potentially in real estate, salaries and product.

Response by SGT William Howell made Jun 8 at 2015 10:10 AM

SGT William Howell — Mon, 08 Jun 2015 10:10:15 -0400

I think that the money spent could be better use with other organizations that get more money to vets. Wounded Warrior is going to come crashing down at some point and other non-profits that help are going to receive some of the fallout.

Response by SGT Ben Keen made Jun 8 at 2015 10:24 AM

SGT Ben Keen — Mon, 08 Jun 2015 10:24:11 -0400

The truth is in the 990. This organization has over the past 14 years done more to hurt the image of Veterans than it has helped. They have perfected the marketing of using Soldiers and their injuries to pull in money while not sharing the great things that even those missing 2 or 3 body parts are doing to better than community. So yes, the "heat" coming down on them is well deserved. And I'm not saying this as someone with his own Veterans' Nonprofit organization but I think people will see their hard earned dollar go further when they donate to local organizations. Those of us in it not to get rich on the backs of Veterans will appreciate your donation and ensure it used for all the right reasons, not to pad our back pockets.

Response by SGT Mike Mangual made Jun 8 at 2015 6:26 PM

SGT Mike Mangual — Mon, 08 Jun 2015 18:26:04 -0400

First they have separated and segregated us they will not help veterans of past wars not that I need them but if you are not from 2001 then you do exist to them and no way this supposed to be about the troops not someone making big buck to run a charity

Response by LCDR Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2015 11:08 AM

LCDR Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Jun 2015 11:08:21 -0400

This may be a good reason why. Personally I prefer to support local Organizations where I can volunteer my time and all the money goes to the wounded warrior but then San Antonio is uniquely positioned for this. I would not criticize someone for supporting WWP but when I read stuff like this it reaffirms my approach.

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/04/wounded-warrior-charity-unleashes-hell-on-other-veteran-groups.html

‘Wounded Warrior’ Charity Unleashes Hell—On Other Veteran Groups

What happens when a nonprofit that was started to help veterans becomes the neighborhood bully?

Response by SSgt Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2015 12:30 PM

SSgt Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Jun 2015 12:30:28 -0400

it does seem that they are leaning more and more this direction. they are going after similar organizations that 'dare' to use silhouetted soldiers in their images.

Response by SSG Roger Ayscue made Jun 9 at 2015 12:31 PM

SSG Roger Ayscue — Tue, 09 Jun 2015 12:31:14 -0400

Maybe, but they have done some good work in the past and continue to be the most visible advocates for Wounded Warriors.

Response by MAJ Private RallyPoint Member made Jun 9 at 2015 12:56 PM

MAJ Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 09 Jun 2015 12:56:08 -0400

Please do not take this article, or anything else that comes from Veteran's Today seriously. This IS NOT a reputable web site!

Response by CPT Bruce Rodgers made Jun 9 at 2015 1:05 PM

CPT Bruce Rodgers — Tue, 09 Jun 2015 13:05:16 -0400

Probably