Your thoughts on immigration? Mine are plain and very simple!

Sgt David G Duchesneau — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 14:30:42 -0400

In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he/she shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such person because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person’s becoming in every facet an American and nothing but an American. … There can be no divided allegiance here. Any person who says he/she is an American, but something else also, isn’t an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag. … We have room for but one language here and that is the English language … and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the Constitution of the United States and the American people.

Response by CPT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 2 at 2015 2:36 PM

CPT Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 14:36:40 -0400

Amen! Brother! Don't mean to be short, David, but you "nailed it."

Response by LTC Bink Romanick made Aug 2 at 2015 4:14 PM

LTC Bink Romanick — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:14:23 -0400

Sgt David G Duchesneau my feeling is that legal immigrants are very welcome. I do feel that the children of the illegals that were born here should be allowed to stay and given citizenship. Kids who never knew anything but America.

As far as the borders, I don't feel that building a wall will keep anyone out. As you know they've been tunneling under the walls for years. I'm not sure that we can ever close the borders.

Response by 1SG Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 2 at 2015 4:16 PM

1SG Private RallyPoint Member — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 16:16:07 -0400

Does that mean Ted Crus (my key for the last letter of the alphabet is broken), Nicole Kidman, Craig Ferguson, Lis Taylor, Salma Hayek, Hugh Jackman, Anthony Hopkins, Mick Jagger and many many more should renounce their other countries?

I don't even get the statement that 'We have room for but one language here and that is the English language' there are many successful people here that are bilingual. Italian, German, French, Spanish, Portuguese...the list goes on and on. Hell, if we take this logic all the way back, us Americans should be speaking the language of the first peoples that settled here. But which one..the algic family of the northeast (Mahican, Deleware, Illinois tribes, for example) or perhaps Siouan Family of the planes (Kansas, Omaha, Crow tribes) There were over 100 language variants spoken on this land by Native Americans.

Response by CPT Jack Durish made Aug 2 at 2015 5:23 PM

CPT Jack Durish — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:23:40 -0400

It appears that most illegals arrive in America escaping from tyranny, expecting to find tyranny. They scoff at the law because the law where they come from is simply a tool of tyranny, used to subjugate them. Why should anything be any different in America? They come to take back what was stolen from them. Isn't it reasonable that Americans, like the tyrants where they come from, have so much only because they stole it from others? Therein lies the problem. Legal immigrants come for the same reason, to escape tyranny, but don't expect to find it here. They assimilate because that is how one becomes a law abiding citizen. They may hang onto vestiges of their culture, but their children want to become Americans. I know. I am only one generation removed from my immigrant grandparents. My wife is the child of immigrants. We are as American as it gets. Now watch the illegals parading in Los Angeles with their Mexican flags. Do you think they want to become Americans?

Response by MSgt Curtis Ellis made Aug 2 at 2015 5:29 PM

MSgt Curtis Ellis — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:29:55 -0400

I have no problem with immigration... I do, however, have an issue with the enforcement of our current immigration laws, especially since it allows for both "Legal" and "Illegal" to receive the same benefits whether they are trying to become citizens or not... I don't have an issue with children of illegals who were born here and have been through and have graduated our school system K-12. I do, however, think that these children should be required to take the citizenship exam at HS graduation and/or before acceptance to any American College. Failure would not get them deported, but would make them legal aliens who are eligible for re-test, or employment if they did not wish to further their education. Any children they have would be considered American (Given my history, we have to draw a line somewhere). I also think that legal (not born here, nor graduated HS here) aliens be given a time frame to become American Citizens upon being accepted here, even if that exam has to be done in their native language, or be deported. At some point, we should hold the individual responsible especially since "we" are paying for it, and lines do have to be drawn in the sand letting them know they can either stand on this side of it, or board the boat back. I know there are many ideas on how to handle this, and mine is just one in billions, but at least its a fair opinion! LOL!

Response by SPC(P) Jay Heenan made Aug 2 at 2015 5:46 PM

SPC(P) Jay Heenan — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 17:46:31 -0400

Very well said Sgt David G Duchesneau!

Response by SSgt Alex Robinson made Aug 2 at 2015 6:10 PM

SSgt Alex Robinson — Sun, 02 Aug 2015 18:10:17 -0400

If you don't come here legally go home. We don't need you. If you want to follow our laws and come here properly then by all means follow the laws and come here.

Response by Cpl Chris Rice made Aug 3 at 2015 5:41 AM

Cpl Chris Rice — Mon, 03 Aug 2015 05:41:37 -0400

I am both excited and kinda depressed reading some of the responses to this, on one hand I’m excited because people are finally dropping the whole we have to deport the children of illegal immigrants born in the United States, but at the same time this shouldn’t be that exciting as it’s a provision of the 13th amendment, and it’s kinda disgusting that some politicians are capable of utilizing this as a campaign slogan.

My simple opinion on all of this is that a lot of people get really excited when they talk about the whole waiting in line concept with immigration, the problem is that most the people who are illegal immigrants there was no line for them to wait in. I mean I looked into it the other day, and if the current immigration laws that existed when my ancestors came over I would still be in Europe, as currently in the United States unless you have a college degree we are no longer the new world to immigrants, being of sound body and mind with a willingness to work is no longer seen as a virtue worthy of coming to America.

Last I would like to bring up his there is never been a time in the United States history where the actual immigration laws have been enforced well, and currently the net immigration from Mexico is zero. Als (o you’re going to be unable to deport your way out of this, and no matter what you do there is going to be immigration from Mexico, not for temporary work, not to just come in for the day, but people who want to live here. I completely agree that there should be no sanctuary cities, however I completely blame every single conservative on this site (I’m trying to make a humorous point just a second), every time a state or municipality is applauded for defying the federal government it empowers other cities or states to defy the federal government as well, so the next time you think about applauding or empowering the governor who refuses to issue licenses to same-sex couples, or the sheriff who says that he will arrest federal agents who may try to enforce federal gun laws remember the you may be empowering some ass hole in San Francisco to do the same thing and their Fucked up priorities.

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 4 at 2015 9:01 PM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Tue, 04 Aug 2015 21:01:53 -0400

From where I stand, I see that our government is trying to GIVE benefits to illegal immigrants and other non-citizens... but when it comes to lowering the budget, the first thing they want to do is take benefits from those who actually EARN them... the military service members and veterans!

Response by SGT Private RallyPoint Member made Aug 5 at 2015 8:43 AM

SGT Private RallyPoint Member — Wed, 05 Aug 2015 08:43:31 -0400

I disagree with your statement "we have room for but one language here and that is the English language" You can be a legal immigrant and know more than one language. You can be an natural born American citizen and know more than one language.

I do believe however, that learning English is important when it comes legal immigrants becoming acclimated to American Culture