Posted on Dec 21, 2018
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Under Article 2 of the UCMJ, the Army maintains court-martial jurisdiction over retired personnel. Army Regulation 27-10, Military Justice, states “Retired members of a regular component of the Armed Forces who are entitled to pay are subject to the provisions of the UCMJ.
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LTC Gary Earls
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So the FBI can lie to you and not be punished but if you lie to the FBI then you go to jail. Something is wrong here.
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PO3 Eugene Kordahl
PO3 Eugene Kordahl
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You are so correct, PO2L R.. But now, are we faced with the de-construction of our beloved Constitution? Sadly, many ex-govt. employees seem to think that the man called "the curse" may become the Commander-in-Chief.
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Cpl Adam Heywood
Cpl Adam Heywood
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The point is, law enforcement shouldn't be able to legally lie to you.
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PO3 Scott McConnell
PO3 Scott McConnell
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Where are the morals? A Lt. General is questioned by the FBI, he lied to them (admitted to it) so yea, doesn’t matter who else did what he did it
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SPC Stiv ChenRobbins
SPC Stiv ChenRobbins
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PO3 Scott McConnell - The actual charge was "making untrue statements," I believe. In other words, it doesn't even have to be a deliberate lie.
As far as having admitted to it, yes, when given a choice between having the entire weight of the government attempting to crush him like a bug or just admitting to this, he chose not to fight a war he couldn't win. Might not have been the way I would have gone, but we have seen what happens to the enemies of the current administration...
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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I say leave his military pension alone if his infractions did not occur in service to the military. They are unrelated.
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A1C Jj Birchard
A1C Jj Birchard
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Well Fort Sumpter comes to mind. Perhaps a reading of the 14th Amendment would be of help here. They knew what they were there for, and it was m not a Winnie roast.
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Maj Gordon Hunter
Maj Gordon Hunter
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SPC (Join to see) - Insurrection does not mean violence, necessarily, though there was plenty on J6 (just ask USCPD and DCMPD). Blatantly attempting to halt a Constitutional process in an attempt to nullify election results, however, is definitely insurrection.
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PO2 Bernard Spriggs Jr
PO2 Bernard Spriggs Jr
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Regarding General Flynn’s pension. FROM VA.GOV: Veterans who receive VA pension payments will have their benefits terminated on the 61st day after being imprisoned for a felony conviction. : Which means he keeps his benefits because he was not imprisoned he used his get out of jail free pass (pardon). (I do like it but it i what it is unless he gets court-martialed
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SGT Lou Meza
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I'm of the opinion that Gen. Flynn should not be punished twice for the same offense.
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Maj Gordon Hunter
Maj Gordon Hunter
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SSG Douglas Shaffer - But not the shenanigans he's pulled since then. Like advocating violent overthrow of government.
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CSM Thomas Ray
CSM Thomas Ray
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Amn Joseph H. - Are you deliberately ignoring this guy trusted with national security secrets was taking money from an enemy country not automatically a traitor? What about members of Congress and the current President?
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SP5 Chester Horton
SP5 Chester Horton
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I believe every member of the military is a U.S. citizen and the laws of the land still apply to all citizens. Therefore, it would be a violation of our laws to try a citizen twice for the same offense. Yes, I was subject to the UCMJ when I served in the Army. I didn't agree with the double jeopardy then and I am of the same opinion now.

Just sayin'.
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PO2 Bernard Spriggs Jr
PO2 Bernard Spriggs Jr
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In my opinion, While I agree with you SGT Meza, that general fin should not be punished twice. In actuality, he has not been punished at all. He was convicted once and he then used his get out of jail free pass (Presidential Pardon), but that doesn’t relieve him of the military responsibilities annd regulations since he WAS using the cloak of General no one relieved him of the UCMJ articles.it would not be double jeopardy..
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