Posted on Oct 31, 2013
CW4 Gary Smith
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September 30, 2013 was the last day to use or lose leave at the extended 75 day limit. Service members are reminded that the policy for leave carryover will return to 60 days at the end of FY13. If you are in excess of 60 days of accrued annual leave on September 30, 2013, those excess days will be lost.




It is recommended that service members check their LES’s to maintain correct accounting of leave.


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I worked in a Fortune 500 company prior to joining the Army and it was common pace to be able to sell your unused leave and sick days back at the end of the year. In my opinion, you have earned those days and it shouldn't be taken away from you because you didn't have the opportunity to use them.
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CW2 Oic   Strategic Debriefing Office   Hawaii
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I like your idea Sir. I know many who take leave when they want, but frequently don't because they get enough time off for what they want to do, then take leave only to waste it. I would enjoy having the option of selling back my leave as often as I needed. It could be a little bonus each year for putting work above all else.
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CW4 Gary Smith
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I agree 100%
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PFC Joshua Hagen
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Yeah, apparently someone needs to relay that to the Fortune 500 company I work for cause we don't do that where I work. It's just use it or lose it, and more often that not for a lot of people, it's "lose" since we don't have enough staff for everyone to use up their time properly by the end of the year.
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SFC Mark Merino
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Rock on CPT (Join to see) Even more disgusting was the fact that so many of us who got medically retired at the height of the surge (the "Legacy" retirees) who had to be out within 90 days after the MED board determination lost tons of leave days due to mandatory clearing, appointments, etc. These same people who said we had no excuse for accruing so many days leave were the same ones to DENY our leave when we were trying to use it in the end. BOHICA!
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Unfortunately you can only sell leave days during reenlistment and only limited to 60 days over the course of your career. Use/Lose should probably be limited. Could you image come ETS/Retirement and someone has an insane amount of leave to burn. Both supervisors and subordinates are responsible that everyone has a chance to use that leave, but that always doesn’t happen.
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SCPO David Lockwood
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I always thought that if you went over the amount of leave authorized that you should be paid for the unused leave. I would make it every six months so that you would get at least an extra pay check from it.
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Mr. Smith,

There is still plenty of time remaining for taking leave days in excess of 60, but less than 75. 75 days is the use/lose limit until Sep 2015, according to ALARACT 022/1213. Here's the link to the message.

http://usarmy.vo.llnwd.net/e2/c/downloads/280086.pdf

In response to the actual question, I feel that any supervisor worthy of leading should identify Soldiers who have use/lose well in advance, like at the beginning of the FY. This can be done easily by checking LESs, something which many of my friends don't even do for themselves, let alone their subordinates. When you identify those with use/lose leave, maximize their oportunity to take it by having a training calendar which identifies leave periods at least three months out (should be six, but I rarely see it), and counsel the Soldier on the consequences of not taking their leave. If there is not an opportunity for a Soldier to take their leave, the unit can submit paperwork to allow them to keep it, but that isn't likely if a Soldier is making a decision not to use their available leave.

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CW4 Gary Smith
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Right on. Good investigative work, too. I had heard that and seen it somewhere...just didn't have the during this post.
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Well done Sir. Here is the DOD Instruction #1327.06

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