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With the new AF Form 910 version 3 and the 911 in use now... Do you like it or hate it..?
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Our CSS sent out a message yesterday that the local MPS will take any version of the form if you are writing a referral. Apparently people are having problems writing those. I gon't like the fact that I have to attach a mid-term ACA along with the EPR. That feedback should be private between my troop and I.
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The AF dropped the ball and really screwed up. I am glad to be out though but I saw the writing on the wall when I was on my way out the door.
I think they screwed up the forms. First the AF 912 came out the day of the CMSgt close out day, the 911 the same for SMSgt, and the 910 has had so many problems we are on V3 and I wouldn't be surprised if V4 is coming soon. Is it really that hard to make a PDF form?
The AF says volunteering and PT is not on the form but it is indirectly via the whole person concept and you need to do two bullets. Yes I know the form says one minimum, but you all know leadership is going to make you do two bullets. Lets say you get a "met some, but not all expectations" on the Whole Airman Concept Section... well you are getting a referral report. So if you fail to volunteer enough or meet expectations to be involved in the community you are getting a referral report. Not to mention the whole person concept isn't on the AF 912. I guess Chiefs are exempt from it. I see the form is suggested for future roles, but why not do a 1206 if/when nominating for CCM or other positions.
I do think the form made for the force shaping in 2014 would have been a PERFECT EPR form with minor tweaks...The one where you had to strat people, but it was a preview of things to come with racking and stacking.
There are still too many bullets - don't let the minimums fool you, leadership will require and expect you to fill the whole form out.
White space is still going to be a thing, the whole going back and forth up and down the chain is still a thing. I will say though the Static Close Out reduced it, at least at my squadron. Before the SCOD, my EPR went through EIGHT revisions. With the SCOD? Four revisions.
I think they screwed up the forms. First the AF 912 came out the day of the CMSgt close out day, the 911 the same for SMSgt, and the 910 has had so many problems we are on V3 and I wouldn't be surprised if V4 is coming soon. Is it really that hard to make a PDF form?
The AF says volunteering and PT is not on the form but it is indirectly via the whole person concept and you need to do two bullets. Yes I know the form says one minimum, but you all know leadership is going to make you do two bullets. Lets say you get a "met some, but not all expectations" on the Whole Airman Concept Section... well you are getting a referral report. So if you fail to volunteer enough or meet expectations to be involved in the community you are getting a referral report. Not to mention the whole person concept isn't on the AF 912. I guess Chiefs are exempt from it. I see the form is suggested for future roles, but why not do a 1206 if/when nominating for CCM or other positions.
I do think the form made for the force shaping in 2014 would have been a PERFECT EPR form with minor tweaks...The one where you had to strat people, but it was a preview of things to come with racking and stacking.
There are still too many bullets - don't let the minimums fool you, leadership will require and expect you to fill the whole form out.
White space is still going to be a thing, the whole going back and forth up and down the chain is still a thing. I will say though the Static Close Out reduced it, at least at my squadron. Before the SCOD, my EPR went through EIGHT revisions. With the SCOD? Four revisions.
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I agree some leadership groups will probably do that. But so far I haven't seen all. Hopefully it'll transition out some, like creases on ABUs (but also like the latter probably won't go away altogether). I had some blank blocks on mine that didn't apply because it didn't go through that person (rater's rater vs senior rater, etc). All in all I think the total number of bullets dropped by either 2 or 4 vs the previous EPRs. I agree the white space bit on bullets will probably still apply, which has always been a pain. I've seen Army ones and have sadly been jealous because they had so much space at the end of their bullets. They just said what they did and what the impact was and carried on to the next.
I'm hoping the SCOD continues to reduce the up & down the chain bit as well. It seems to have required more efficiency in most cases I've seen so far.
I'm hoping the SCOD continues to reduce the up & down the chain bit as well. It seems to have required more efficiency in most cases I've seen so far.
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