Posted on Jan 22, 2020
Does anyone have experience with the National Guard's 19th or 20th Special Forces Groups?
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I am currently a full time active California Peace Officer with 5+ years of experience. Additionally, I am a 28 year old E-5 in the Army National Guard with 8 years of service as an MP with 2 deployments.
There are 2 aspects to this question. The first would be getting some information on the process and timeline for a currently serving National Guard soldier with high PT and marksmanships, as well as no flags or disciplinary issues.
The second would be information for my partner at work who is also a California Peace Officer with 8+ years experience, but no prior military service or experience. He is currently 28 years old, in phenomenal physical shape and very bright. I was hoping to provide him with some knowledge from my brothers.
Both of us also have Bachelor's Degrees in Criminology and Criminal Justice.
I know the process takes some time and neither of us are worried about spending a good chunk away from work for training and selection.
Thanks for the help!
There are 2 aspects to this question. The first would be getting some information on the process and timeline for a currently serving National Guard soldier with high PT and marksmanships, as well as no flags or disciplinary issues.
The second would be information for my partner at work who is also a California Peace Officer with 8+ years experience, but no prior military service or experience. He is currently 28 years old, in phenomenal physical shape and very bright. I was hoping to provide him with some knowledge from my brothers.
Both of us also have Bachelor's Degrees in Criminology and Criminal Justice.
I know the process takes some time and neither of us are worried about spending a good chunk away from work for training and selection.
Thanks for the help!
Posted in these groups: 
Special Operations
Special Forces
18X: Special Forces Candidate
31B: Military Police
Police
Special Operations Special Forces 18X: Special Forces Candidate 31B: Military Police Police
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Absolutely glad to help. So first locate your nearest SF Guard Unit. Go to them and start asking questions. The training NCO should be there. Now it is important to know how your state treats the SF unit. Not every state treats their SF units with respect. Ask them that question. Do not be intimidated, do not slouch, have a firm handshake and present a positive and respectful attitude. Do not do this if it’s just to wear the hat. It’s just a hat and it’s the man under that hat that makes it Special. They will have all of the answers to your questions and will help you as much as they can, however it will ALL be up to you to execute on the information they will provide. Good Luck!!!
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There is a ton of info out there about this. While previous experiences may help you be successful, they are not directly weighed during selection events (supposedly). The only thing that is assessed at SFRE and SFAS are your actions during the events.
First, NG Soldiers/civilians volunteer for an SFRE. It's basically a drill 2-4 day drill where unit members put you through all or some of the evaluated events at SFAS. At the completion, you may be invited to join the unit's training team. If you are NG, you will complete an IST or transfer (or attach) to the unit. You will then drill with the unit where you are trained for SFAS. When they believe you're ready, you will go to SFAS. Then, the journey is basically the same as active duty SF until the completion of the Q course, at which point you return back to your unit as an 18-series Soldier.
First, NG Soldiers/civilians volunteer for an SFRE. It's basically a drill 2-4 day drill where unit members put you through all or some of the evaluated events at SFAS. At the completion, you may be invited to join the unit's training team. If you are NG, you will complete an IST or transfer (or attach) to the unit. You will then drill with the unit where you are trained for SFAS. When they believe you're ready, you will go to SFAS. Then, the journey is basically the same as active duty SF until the completion of the Q course, at which point you return back to your unit as an 18-series Soldier.
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You will spend a good chunk away from work: 3 weeks for SFAS, 3 weeks for Airborne school, 14-18 months for SFQC.
A Co does not consider nonprior service, as you must have an Army MOS to go to SFQC, and they are not in the business of getting someone another Army MOS, your partner would need to enlist and go 11B or 31B locally first.
Send me an email for detailed information.
A Co does not consider nonprior service, as you must have an Army MOS to go to SFQC, and they are not in the business of getting someone another Army MOS, your partner would need to enlist and go 11B or 31B locally first.
Send me an email for detailed information.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
Isn't a Rep 63 (18x) enlistment option still available for his non prior service buddy? That would get you 11B MOS, Airborne, and a shot at SFAS.
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CPT Lawrence Cable - 18X is available for active duty, and states with SF BNs will offer REP 63. When you just have an SF company in the state, they just don't have the resources to run a high OPTEMPO company, manage the prior service candidate pipeline AND manage nonprior service to get another MOS.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
SGM (Join to see) - Don't have to manage the Rep 63 candidates to get another MOS, they have to complete 11B OSUT and Airborne before they get to show up at SFAS. They don't hack it, the State of California would just get a new 11B with wings.
Same thing that happens on the Active side.
Same thing that happens on the Active side.
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CPT Lawrence Cable and a candidate is free to do that on their own, find a recruiter, get a slot in some other unit, complete an MOS, then contact the SF company for a SFRE. The SF company does not deal with them until that point. But that's not really rep 63, that's just enlisting for an MOS with a plan.
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