Posted on Nov 8, 2013
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I have served in both capacities and even on active duty while in the Guard. I constantly hear Active Duty gripe about the National Guard, and yet even worse I have also heard National Guard gripe about the National Guard. I am very pound of my unit's achievements in the past and while I have served with them. We have fought and lost great men just like our counterparts in the Active Duty Army. I make sure to crush it where I find it. We didn't get the name of Roosevelt's SS for nothing. We literally shredded the German's 1st SS in WWII and later deployed twice to OIF.&nbsp;<div><br></div><div>How do you approach this situation, whether you're in the National Guard or Regular Army? Or are you guilty of doing this? I was in the past.&nbsp;</div>
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COL James Stevens Roach
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I spent 29 years on active duty, and I think that we often had unrealistic expectations of National Guard Soldiers. &nbsp;National Guard soldiers are often 10 to 15 years older then their active duty counter parts, and often not in as good a physical condition. &nbsp;Their physical condition was a function of age, and physical training - which isn't part of most civilian occupations. But the aspect that was often over looked, is that when you had a National Guard unit deploying with you, there were always a bonus effect. &nbsp;You had professional electricians, plumbers, carpenters, mechanics, lawyers, doctors, nurses... all of those National Guardsmen had years of experience from their civilian jobs - and that always was a wonderful bonus... and helped us solve real world problems. &nbsp;The National Guardsmen that I worked with were good men, dedicated and brave soldiers - but they were different from active duty soldiers, and in some ways better.
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Made me think of when we hit Talil in 06. Two of our guys were IT guros with AT&T. They got a Satellite set up, had switches sent over. We were the first Soldiers with internet in our houches! lol. Can't think of that NCO's name, but he was rain man when it came to setting all those wires up. Taught me a lot of tech savvy stuff. Oh and he worked in Supply which was an added bonus.
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GySgt William Hardy
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I had the same experience in Iraq as you did SSG Brian D. We had a whole company of men who trained for gun truck security while were at the MOB station. No special training required before hand. After we got to Camp Taji, the range of MOSs in the engineer and commo fields really came in handy as repairs were quickly made. On the first several missions that took our guys to LSA Anaconda, they picked up loads of wood and wire. It wasn't long before the barracks were looking good and everyone had cable TV. The multifaceted MOS training and the civilian skills proved to be Godsend.
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MAJ Keira Brennan
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Well said sir.
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MSG Paul DePrimo
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Also as a reminder, Best Ranger went to PA National Guard! Sullivan cup to NC National Guard & best sniper competition went to , yep National guard! Roll On ! Iron Soldiers !
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1SG Steven Stankovich
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I believe that there is a time and a place for some good natured ribbing and joking between branches, services and components. With that being said, I have served with members of the National Guard in both Afghanistan and in Iraq and to me and my Soldiers, the only difference was the patch on the shoulder. It's a non-issue in my book.
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GySgt William Hardy
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As an active duty Marine, I was stationed at Patch Barracks in Stuttgart, GE and was surrounded by mostly soldiers, but Air Force and Navy also. One day this Army CPT came in my office and said, "SSgt Hardy, I was told you might have nails I could get from you." My response was, "Sorry Sir, I ate my last ones for lunch!" Yes, there is a place for good natured ribbing, but when it comes to differences between active and reserve, there should be no difference. If you run across a bad unit, that unit is bad, not the whole system. I have run across both good and bad in active and reserve status.
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LCDR Judge Advocate General's Corps Officer
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Mid-deployment, we had a visiting CO and CMDCM. There was an active-duty E6 who said, "What's up with all of these reservists?! They may flip burgers in their civilian career, and then they come over here (in theatre) and don't know their jobs!" Mind you that most of the room were reservists including our CO, XO and CMDCM. Thankfully, the visiting CMDCM mentioned that his entire command were mobilized reservists "who can go tow-to-tow" with any active duty command he had been at.

My personal opinion is that after you are deployed for a few weeks or months, everyone settles into their jobs, and besides patches, you can't tell who is active, reserve or National Guard. Many active duty don't have extended interaction with reserves or National Guard, but it is definitely more than a "one weekend a month, two weeks out of the year" commitment.
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LCDR (Join to see) - LCR, I am sure that many reservists have over 3 years active duty, over 3 deployments since 2001. Due to the recent downsizing talk of reducing the active army by 40k, the active component will have to work alongside the reserve/guard units because of sequestration of $100 billion over the next 10 years. We have come back to the Donald Rumsfeld 'go with what you got' mentality. Rumsfeld said that Kuwait in late 2004. I was not at that meeting where he answered the Louisiana ARNG soldier's complaints about lack of up-armored vehicles with them at Camp Udari.
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CSM Michael Poll
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Like many of my counterparts here in this thread, I have served in the AD and am now a reservist.&nbsp; There is some good old fashioned ribing, but there are those out there who think of the Reserve and National Guard as substandard.&nbsp; What COL Roach says in this speaks volumes, but another aspect is this,&nbsp; We "part time" Soldiers are able to complete missions in combat with training only 2 days a month and 2 weeks in a year and are able to keep up and sometimes out perform our AC counterparts.&nbsp; There are thos out there that see this, however I do not believe we will ver totally get out of the "Nasty Guard or Reserve" mentality.&nbsp; Only those that served side by side with them will have a new respect for us.&nbsp; I amproud to be a reservist.&nbsp; We are able to juggle the Military, our civilian job, family school etc.&nbsp; AC is able to concentrate on thier full time Military occupation.&nbsp; Be proud of who you are, AC, Reservist or National Guardsman because in the end we all are on the same team fighting the same fight!
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I think this is a perfect way to state the obvious we are all part of the team some wont get it but like stated above once you serve side by side most minds are changed.
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SSG Senior Food Operations Sergeant
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I believe in the guard been deployed in hostile area and the guard performs to and above standard of active army. i know a retired active 1SG who has said he would reather have a national guard unit on his six than active. if that says what the guard is made of i'll take that anyday over what other recuiters have to say about us. also when i got home from our last deployment i had to go to ft. campbell for therapy for my back while there i worked side by side with active army, to quote a SFC that was trhe DFAC manager SGT Sarrell i would have never guessed you were national guard had you not told me so appearently we are doing something right
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