Posted on Oct 1, 2020
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I am a MS3 ROTC Cadet with a Handicap Parking Permit. The Cadet BN CDR ordered me to move my vehicle from the Handicap Spot to another location because: 1) parking spots in the front of the BLDG is for Cadre, 2) my vehicle is blocking the entrance (my vehicle is within the Handicap Parking boundaries), 3) i need to park at the Cadet parking lot.

What are some guidance from Rallypoint?
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CPT Jason Sierakowski
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I'm curious why you think Rally Point is going to give you sound guidance on this. You could look at state laws for handicap parking, which you are within the law to use.

"Cadre parking" is not a lawful parking area. It doesn't matter what an SOP or MFR says.

This always kills me.... The only authorized parking locations are handicap, it's the law. I get it, CSM and the Commander want a parking spot... There is no legal basis for that. If a Soldier parks in said spot, the MPs cannot tow a vehicle. Just because you paint a curb your unit color doesn't make it legal.
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MSgt Gilbert Jones
MSgt Gilbert Jones
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Sgt Gray, I don't know what the Constitution has to do with disabled parking. You said you have disabled license plate, I don't know what KS does about plates, I was talking about the card. KS law talks about the card not the plate.
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SFC Christopher Van Loon
SFC Christopher Van Loon
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SGT Dan Gray - I'm Not talking about that. College campus vs. federal installation. Different rules, I know. Just pointing out that reserved 'courtesy' spots are NOT just a 'courtesy' on all installations.
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SGT Dan Gray
SGT Dan Gray
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SFC Christopher Van Loon - And I am telling you that a handicap parking spot is NOT a reserved courtesy anything, it is REQUIRED under FEDERAL LAW (Title 1 and Title 2 US Code) as well as a SCOTUS decision. What that means is the Batt commander CANT do squat as long as the person parking in the handicap spot is the person who the plaquard is issued to. If they do try anything they will lose their rank and at the very least be court martialed.
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SGT Dan Gray
SGT Dan Gray
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MSgt Gilbert Jones - The full faith and credit part of the Constitution REQUIRES each state to recognize official issued documents as if they issued them themselves. This is why every state in the US recognizes a marriage license or a drivers license or an order from a Judge just like the state issued it, and it makes no difference if it came from a different state or not.
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LTC Kevin B.
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If you have a handicap permit, you are legally able to park there. I would tell the Cadet Bn Cdr to first discuss the matter with the university police.
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2LT Steve Warnerski
2LT Steve Warnerski
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SFC Oz David Charles Osborne Oz - A COLLEGE campus (ROTC) doesn't have MPs.
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Maj Pete Siegel
Maj Pete Siegel
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SSG (Join to see) - IIRC, the Texas law regarding DV tags parking in handicap spots changes September 1, 2021. You will need a handicapped placard to continue parking in handicapped marked spots.
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GySgt Team Chief
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CW3 Dan Mackey I agree with this statement sir. This is also labeled as retaliation. So that’s a good way for them to get posted.
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PVT Jim Dockeray
PVT Jim Dockeray
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I would say unless you are SO SEVERELY handicapped that it's detrimental to walk the required distance, it's not worth raising a stink over, you may win the battle, but lose the war (Be dogged by everyone in a position of power) Aside from the handicapped placard/plate, do you have a profile?
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I would like to see your BN CDT CDR explain to the Senior ROTC Instructor(s) why you were ordered to move your car from a handicap spot when you have a valid (even if it's a temp one) permit.
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Maj Maria Avellaneda
Maj Maria Avellaneda
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My question is why do yo feel obligated to use a few choice words to make your point! It doesn’t add to your point yet it takes away from you!
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MAJ Charles Cross
MAJ Charles Cross
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Although I try to refrain from typing the F word, your comment reminds me of the current kinder gentler military we have. 50 yrs age we heard it all but we didn't get offended and run to our safe space.
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Lt Col Paul Maxwell
Lt Col Paul Maxwell
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The actual cadre leadership team should be made aware of what appears to be weird, troubling behavior on the part of the Cadet Commander. They may need to reassess his/her leadership skills, insight, and potential.
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MSG Thomas Currie
MSG Thomas Currie
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This is the one clearly correct and valid comment, because the situation is one that should be handled by the cadre not by some over-age child asking his playmates for their opinions.
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