Posted on Dec 8, 2013
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Some traditions aren't official, but began more as habits. Think of those that damage the budget, hinder progress, and others that are flat out just a waste of time or obsolete. 
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SSG Steven Mangus
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60 minute speeches glorifying outgoing commanders at change of commands. Sure let the speak; however limit it to 15 minutes..
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SSG Operations Nco
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Even less time.
Nobody in formation cares what the speaker is saying, cause their at attention or parade rest.
Never cared who was leaving, taking over or what their history was. If I wanted to know it, it's in the pamphlets and later posted online.
I swore in to follow lawful orders regardless of who was in command.
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SSG Dennis O'Connor
SSG Dennis O'Connor
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I’ve been retired for a few years but I seem to recall an actual regulation that dictates an allotted time limit for outgoing/incoming commander remarks. Couldn’t begin to remember the minute limits but I assume it was meant to limit the endless droning at CofC ceremonies
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CWO4 Brook Kelsey
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Changes of command - period! Let it go for Pete’s sake!
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MSG Thomas Currie
MSG Thomas Currie
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It wouldn't be quite so bad if the speeches weren't all the same. Outgoing commander says how proud he is of having commanded this find unit, recaps a few of the unit accomplishments (cribbed from his OER Support Form) and then says how sad he is to be leaving this great unit but that the service is sending him to a new assignment. Incoming commander says how proud he is to be taking command of this terrific unit, how he is confident everyone will give him the same outstanding performance they gave the previous commander, and how the unit will continue to do great things in the future.

I only saw one change of command that ever broke from that script. Outgoing commander made the standard speech. Incoming commander stepped up and said something like "Now I'm supposed to tell you how proud I am to be assuming command of this battalion. Well I'm not going to say that, because I'm not proud of this unit and you aren't proud to be here -- but we'll have another formation in a month and then I'll tell you that I'm proud of the unit, because you'll be proud to be here -- or you won't be here." That incoming commander turned around what had been a piss poor unit into a good one. It took him more than a month, but we were well on the way in that first month.
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PO2 Brad Broerman
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It's a shame that they got rid of tacking on crows, or the ceremonies involved with crossing the line or blue nose... all because of "hazing"... honestly, some mild hazing is ok. it builds character and strength, and builds the feelings of camaraderie.
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SSG John Jensen
SSG John Jensen
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I was one of the last in the 82d (unless they brought it back) to make a 'cherry' jump with a 'cherry' helmet - it was a night jump so what was the point?
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PO1 William Stoneback
PO1 William Stoneback
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There is still shellback initiation just minus the physical abuse. Still not a pleasant day for wogs just no lasting bruises or injuries. I was initiated under the old system but look at the new system and still honor those sailors as shellbacks
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PO2 Brad Broerman
PO2 Brad Broerman
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MS1, it's good they're still doing it at least.
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Everything about the military builds character, strength, and camaraderie. Hazing is not ok.
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SGM Matthew Quick
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Why are we looking to get rid of traditions because it's "just a waste of time"?
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Sgt Thomas Proctor
Sgt Thomas Proctor
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PO1 Charles Norris - Try doing away with civilian jobs and it won't be long before you will see the politicians up putting on a show about how important these jobs are to the military and the community.
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SPC Unit Supply Specialist
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Why wouldn't we be looking at getting rid of time-wasting, pointless traditions?
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SGM Matthew Quick getting rid of traditions will benefit the military and the country. It's stupid to keep doing something stupid just because it's what you've always done. Nothing about tradition benefits the military, so getting rid of it will.
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SGM Matthew Quick here's a better idea: stop being a dick to your soldiers by pretending traditions are important. Training people and putting them to work gives them a sense of purpose. Traditions just make people wanna off themselves.
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