Posted on Nov 3, 2013
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I have been dealing with this a lot. I have seen both ways. As per AR 600–25 the junior person should salute. I see a 1LT senior to a 2LT and I salute them. I have seen many instances where this does not happen. Most see a LT as a LT regardless of being a 1st or 2nd. How do you all feel about this?

"B. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Salutes will be exchanged between officers (commissioned and warrant) and enlisted personnel, and with personnel of the Armed Forces of the United States..."
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LTC Gene Shewbert
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I agree and support the regulation when it comes to saluting, but the truth is the salute is a time honored recognition between warriors.  It is rendered out of respect for each other and the tasks we are asked to perform.  We too often see saluting as some obligatory requirement to recognize rank.  Too often I heard Non-commissioned officers stating, "that LT is barely out of school, with my experience he should be saluting me."  When I have encountered this, I have always taken the position of your right...you have a great deal of experience and as the Trainer of Soldiers it is your responsibility to TRAIN that officer and bring him or her up to speed with their duties and skill sets....it isn't about rank...its about creating a survivable combat team.  Recognize the fact that every Soldier took an oath...put on their uniform and understands the responsibility....exchange the salute as kin warriors.
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Lt Col Julie Harmon
Lt Col Julie Harmon
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Respect vs Rank; comrades in arms. We acknowledge each other! Team!
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CPL Verne Jenkinson
CPL Verne Jenkinson
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"We salute the rank, not the man". - Major Dick Winters
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SGT Christopher Watson
SGT Christopher Watson
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I am USMC prior so the traditions are set in stone for me. I am now part of ANG on the wing side. I see this all the time in the guard but at a much worse scale. I salute officers and get the "what's up dude" type of response now this not all officers nor the same response I get all the time. I 100% agree "We salute the rank, not the man" however, when the officer goes out of his way to get his salute rendered then I don't agree with "bully" mentality (meaning I was abused, bullied, made fun of, ETC...) that totally destroys the rendering of the salute. sorry I know that no part of the question but I seen that a lot while in the Marine Corps.
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SFC Senior Instructor/Writer
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Couldn't agree more. It is absolutely the SRNCO responsibility to help train and guide the junior officer. But, it's is also the responsibility of the junior officer to accept the feedback from the experienced NCOs. All of the Army leadership is on the same team!
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MG Chief Executive Officer (Ceo)
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When I was a young 2LT, back when the dinosaurs roamed the earth, my company commander was a 1LT. He was a great leader and a great mentor. I would have considered it disrespectful not to salute him. Less because of his rank, but more because of who he was and the position that he held. Should we feel any different about LTC's saluting COL's or BG's saluting MG's? Of course not. Each is entitled to a salute IAW military regulations and customs and courtesies. I would feel bad if I hadn't rendered a salute to that 1LT who helped me get to where I am today!
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CPT Patrol Deputy
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CPT (Join to see) That’s why people don’t take AMEDD seriously.
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CPT Dennis Stevenson
CPT Dennis Stevenson
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I remember those days: "Rank among lieutenants is like virginity in whores." To add to the MG's point. The 1LT was in command of him as a 2LT. So the 1LT is deserving of a salute by hierarchy not necessarily as a LT.
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1LT Rich Voss
1LT Rich Voss
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MG - Exactly sir ! I began the officer part of my service in '67 and we were ALL LTs. Company CO's, XO's, BN and BDE staff officers, it was during Viet Nam and all the CPTs had either left (or were leaving) the service, OR getting sent to 'Nam. So, we indeed saluted each other. By rank and position. Most of us in my unit were young and single and we joked about it in the Officer's Club, but we never wanted our men to think we were lax about respect for each other !
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SP5 Jeannie Carle
SP5 Jeannie Carle
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LTC Jr Hutto - SO well said! Thank you. Customs and Courtesy are just that - I don't understand ANYone fussing about doing what they're supposed to do. Seriously - how damned HARD is it to just salute? It takes 5 seconds out of your life. Just do it.
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The other day I watched our Battalion CSM salute a brand new WO1 who had
just recently returned from WOCS. The WO1 looked surprised, embarrassed and
proud all at once and as for the CSM, he was doing what was right and
respectful and thought nothing else of it. It warmed my little NCO
heart. Be the example.<br>
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COL Jon Lopey
COL Jon Lopey
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CPL Willard: Great story! I knew a lot of "Mustangs" in the USMC during the Viet Nam Era and they were great Marines. Marine officers typically treated NCOs and enlisted men well in my units and to this day I think they still treat their charges with dignity and respect in the vast majority of cases. My first company commander in the USMC was 1LT Decker and he was a former enlisted SSGT. He was still periodically going to the Naval Hospital on CAMPEN to get shrapnel dug out of him from his last Viet Nam tour. Semper Fi, COL L
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Cpl George Willard
Cpl George Willard
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COL Jon Lopey - Thank you, Sir. Semper Fi to you also. I personally think the respect we Marines show our NCO'S and Officers is one of the things that sets us apart. When I was in 1960-1954, Date of Rank was very important within the unit as far as seniority was concerned. It wasn't thought of for some one months junior to you to try and be "Squad bay boss" on their own, they would be reminded of their time in rank quickly and emphatically. I had no problem being subservient to someone senior to me in my grade. That is how it was in the Marines then. I hope that tradition still is kept up. Semper Fi
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Col Daniel Henkel
Col Daniel Henkel
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You are due the salute based on rank! - You earn respect based on leadership!
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COL Bill Stoltzfus
COL Bill Stoltzfus
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In a similar example I was commissioned 2LT after being an SP6 for about a year. I saw 2 of my WO pilot unit members that had been unaware of the pending action; within 1 hour of my promotion. After a quick second look they each smartly saluted and congratulated me. They had always respected me as an enlisted soldier prior to this day, and I have them each the traditional $1 for the first salute given.
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