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Coast Guard
Coast Guard
Posted on Oct 31, 2016
Soldier called me a POG and told me to leave the Commissary. What action can I take?
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Note: My friend Carlos is in the Coast Guard and sent me this question last night. He said he's not on RP due to OPSEC (whatever), so he asked me to ask this on RP on his behalf. He is pretty hell bent on getting this Soldier punished. Anyway, let him know your thoughts on the below.
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I’m in the Coast Guard and have been active duty for 6 years. I’m stationed in Hawaii right now. I was up by Schofield Barracks and went on base there, and went to go shop for a few things at the Commissary. I was waiting in line for some fresh meat and there were 2 Army soldiers also in line, in front of me. They were looking at me and saying things to each other. It looked like they were laughing at me. I heard one of them refer to me as a “POG” which is a slang term I am familiar with from social media stuff. I said to them “Excuse me, I heard what you just said, and I feel disrespected.” I was just trying to stick up for myself. One of the soldiers then squared up to me and said “Yeah, I did call you a POG. Because you are a POG. You need to up and leave here – this is an Army Commissary.” A few other people in line heard this and started laughing. I felt so angry that I just left the building.
I know the soldier’s last name from his top, and I would recognize his face. What actions can I take to report him to his chain of command? What other advice do you have?
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I’m in the Coast Guard and have been active duty for 6 years. I’m stationed in Hawaii right now. I was up by Schofield Barracks and went on base there, and went to go shop for a few things at the Commissary. I was waiting in line for some fresh meat and there were 2 Army soldiers also in line, in front of me. They were looking at me and saying things to each other. It looked like they were laughing at me. I heard one of them refer to me as a “POG” which is a slang term I am familiar with from social media stuff. I said to them “Excuse me, I heard what you just said, and I feel disrespected.” I was just trying to stick up for myself. One of the soldiers then squared up to me and said “Yeah, I did call you a POG. Because you are a POG. You need to up and leave here – this is an Army Commissary.” A few other people in line heard this and started laughing. I felt so angry that I just left the building.
I know the soldier’s last name from his top, and I would recognize his face. What actions can I take to report him to his chain of command? What other advice do you have?
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Coast Guard
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While the army soldiers were disrespectful and childish, I don't think this rises to the level of disciplinary action beyond a counseling. Advice to Carlos: Rub against Army and Marines more often...it makes your skin grow thicker. You are a POG. So am I. I'm happy to NOT be a grunt, but so what? And it's NOT an Army commissary, it's a Defense Commissary (DeCA). Remind the grunt (non-POG) we're on the same team, and he should save his BS for the bad guys.
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LCpl Rich Vail
SSG Joseph Drinkhouse - A Marine is a rifleman, ALL Marines are riflemen. Therefore we beez special! Ergo sum, we beez = SpecFor/Rangers because REZUNZ!
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Col Joseph Lenertz
SSG Stefan L - Yes, I am. And no, I wouldn't have strung them up the nearest pole. Sometimes, young-and-dumb is just young-and-dumb, and I don't need to go full flaming a55hole for every violation that has zero chance of getting anyone hurt or killed.
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Col Joseph Lenertz
SSG Stefan L - True, different application of standards, largely due to the different nature of the mission. Air Force needs to retain a larger portion of their population, so it treats them easier.
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If anyone is offended by being called a POG, they seriously need to get thicker skin.
My advise, come up with some clever comebacks or carry some kleenex around.
My advise, come up with some clever comebacks or carry some kleenex around.
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SSG Wesley McCarty
My Cooks spent more time outside the wire in a combat zone than many of the grunts I know. Quit being a p*ssy Tell him to go f*ck himself.
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SPC Ron Salsbury
SSG Hugh G. Rection - Hoorah SSG!! As a Medivac Crew Chief we heard it all. When a DUSTOFF is in bound with out machine guns blazing, that take more courage to come in and out of a fight. Secondly, GRUNT is an acronym for "Ground Replacement Usually Not Trained!" As an aviator, I am proud to think I have more brains not to be a GRUNT, AKA, "some mindless idiot," not worthy of training beyond, "here's a gun, go see if a landmine is over there."
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SPC Joel Alioto
I was the POG of Pogs, I was a cook in a combat arms unit and not jump qualified. But I treated people with respect and if some young one decided to disrespect me, in front of his buddies Their section got substandard service. Imagine 10 cases of the most hated MRE's, coffee that tasted like kool aid, kool aid that had coffee grounds in it? Then a meal of hot pizzas et, fresh pasties, real eggs etc. c. as I leave I say out loud in ear shot of the commanders, officers and senior nco's, "oh, I am a pog and not a real soldier like you fine men? Wash and repeat after the second or third time those men were burning human waste and I was treated like a man. Don't spit on your quartermaster corp guys, You will regret it.
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SSgt Ronald Orso
POG??? Suck it up, Buttercup. I was USAF, we're all POG's and Proud! Don't hate us because our ASVAB's were above room temperature! (You can use that line)
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"Make me"? Challenge them to a duel and raise your dukes. Have them call the MPs and escort you out of the place. Make a big stinkie, kick them in the gonads, laugh in their face and tell them you have a contagious disease spread through body fluids. Beg them to hit you. Call "incoming" and run in while they figure out what that means. Call mom, she'll fix it.
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1st Lt Meghan Anderson
Col Rebecca Lorraine I for one would like all those who think command intervention is required exactly what they think could be done? Firstly, it is a he said / she said type of situation. No one (apparently) of any rank / supervisory status witnessed it. There is no UCMJ rule for being an immature jerk, just as there is no ref against being overly sensitive. Now if I had heard it myself, I might take a moment to speak with the name caller - but honestly that is about it. Part of being a member of the military is being able maintain objectivity, military bearing, composure etc in all sorts of uncomfortable and stressful situations. If I’m in the cockpit and we are having a serious emergency or event and a curse word comes out as I’m concentrating - but someone is offended about my language and makes a complaint about to my aircraft commander - I’m more concerned they aren’t focusing on what’s important - the task at hand and are letting their hurt ego/feelings be their focus. I keep thinking if Captain America in The Age of Ultron when one of the Avengers says a curse word, and he responds “language” - honestly if this is what you’re having a worry about - I question your metal to be having my back when the rubber meets the road.
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