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Posted on Mar 12, 2021
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Well, whatever the standard, all things being equal the ACFT will statistically reduce fitness readiness in the Reserves.

If only because of administrative execution limitations.

1) Equipment is issued at the BN level.
2) The test itself now takes an entire day, sometimes two depending on the size of the unit
3) Company level tests have to be coordinated across all the companies under the same BN to share equipment.
3a) Eventually equipment will start to become lost, and testing will be hard to complete per the reg.
4) The ACFT event will become much on par as Weapon Qual weekends. They will be mandatory events with no excused absences, on top of the two annual Mass Medical events already unexcused, on top of AT already unexcused. Soldiers will merely eat the "U" in order to attend a critical civilian event like finishing a college degree verses an ACFT.
5) Soldiers flagged will not have the ability to remove the flag until the next large coordinated BN level ACFT record event.
5a) School attendance will go down as a result of increased flags and duration of flags.
5b) Promotions will slow as well as a result of extended flags
5c) Current Record ACFT scores will also roll off as a result of administrative timing between record events and simply not being able to attend reduced record event frequency.

At the highest level of the USAR the choice then becomes maintaining a strategic national level reserve capability or letting it administratively dwindle.

If the ACFT is not changed it will simply have to have many administrative exceptions.
Examples:
1) Current record now lasts 24 months not 12.
2) School don't require a current passing record, or only require it for high skill more expense schools.
3) Promotions might not require current passing record at E5-6 level or O1-O3

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All things being equal, and the fitness level of the USAR soldier being the same in that the soldier that could pass the APFT today assumed could pass the ACFT tomorrow the reported passing metrics on the spreadsheet to the generals is going to be lower.
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
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One uniform standard seems fair, except do we use the women's standard, the old dude standard, or make everyone meet the stud. I mean, if the army wanted to save money on retirement pensions, this is a good way to do it.
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100% correct. Save money on pensions. The new Blended Retirement System (BRS), according to a Rand analysis, stated not enough midcareer Soldiers (10-14 years in) opted into the the new system to save the required dollars on pension. There has been a push for recruitment (New Soldiers are less expensive and forced into BRS) and a non transparent push to get senior people out (Save the grandfathered pension dollars). There has also been a push to limit permanent profiles, forcing Soldiers to be Medically chaptered instead of staying in longer and making the magical 20 year mark.

While all that was happening, SMA Dailey gave us the green light to wear black socks with the new Army PT uniform, which was seen by most as the most important topic of Town Hall discussions. I'll give you black socks but you will have to swallow all of the ACFT in return. Thank you SMA Dailey.
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SPC Sherwood D.
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Just to give a junior enlisted aspect, in basic I took the APFT. This ACFT rolls around and I know it's MOS dependent but to me it's a joke. I'm 25 series so my standard is probably about as low as you can go and I hate it. The Army talks about resilience and readiness, well that starts at raising the standard/expectation. Not slapping together a new test that by and large is far easier to pass than the APFT was.
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
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SFC (Join to see) So be it. I've always believed if a soldier of either gender can't keep up they shouldn't be there. I lived this and when injuries got to where I couldn't keep up I requested retirement and got out.
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg - I agree, If you meet the standard for a certain job, have at it. All I am saying is this test was designed to keep women out of Combat Arms. There was no reason to replace the APFT for a Basic Fitness standard, The ACFT should be a standard pass/fail.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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Thank you for the share RallyPoint Shared Content
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