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Posted on Apr 8, 2021
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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Never had a problem with the marijuana issue as a recruiting commander but it was policy to no let in. We plead the case and won where minimal or recreational use less than so many times it was no problem as long as you never did it again as long as you were on active duty and it was in your past. Depending on the behavioral health issue well, it depends on the issue and the severity. Most kids are diagnosed with behavioral issues because tier parents don't want to deal with them being kids...kids will do stupid things...we all did. But when a lot of them get someone that cares about them, holds them accountable, and gives them meaning above that they are part of something bigger then themselves they work out fine.
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SSG John Oliver
SSG John Oliver
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I have to agree with you on which behavioral problems were in the past. Case in point Bowe Berghdal. How the hell was he granted a waiver when he couldn't hack it in CG bootcamp? We all know the rest....
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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SSG John Oliver - You get one shot and you blow it you don't get another...great example.
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CPT Lawrence Cable
CPT Lawrence Cable
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I would comment that a lot of behavior issues with mainly male children are instigated in the school system, where being a boy is punished these days. While they asked the marijuana question when I enlisted, they also let you know that you wouldn't be tested for the first 30 days and we were not tested at MEPS.
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SFC Melvin Brandenburg
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Sounds legit to me. Really, if there isn't a downside, then we should consider amending the entrance standards.
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SFC Casey O'Mally
SFC Casey O'Mally
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Not necessarily. Keep in mind that this is discussing folks who actually received waivers. We can safely presume that the overwhelming majority of these waivers went to folks who were "borderline" or only "minor cases." I doubt Snoop Dogg, Cheech Marian, Tommy Chong, or Williie Nelson are getting that marijuana waiver.

Same thing for behavioral health. Maybe a 25 year old who had teenage depression and has since outgrown it - or a 19 year old who had ADHD and outgrew it - might be suitable now. But only if we can show that they have overcome/outgrown their problems - meaning a waiver should be used.
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MAJ Ken Landgren
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So this compells me to ask a stupid question. Is measuring bad outcomes the true measure of a soldier's performance? I think this test is too narrow, makes generalizations, and requires an assumption to be a fact. Is the assumption that bad outcomes the true measure of a soldiers performance true? The researcher has turned this assumption into a fact.
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