Posted on Oct 24, 2017
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I deal with cadets a lot, and they insist they out "rank" every NCO in the army. My usual response is somewhere around the guides of "uh-huh." Can I get some clarity of this?
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SGT Dave Tracy
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Yes, but...
(always a good start to a story)

If you want to have a good time, grab you some popcorn, have a seat, and watch what happens when a know-it-all cadet tries to tell a battle-hardened Infantry Platoon Sergeant what's-what. Having watched that show before, I can tell you, that's some good entertainment!
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Sgt Vernon Anderson
Sgt Vernon Anderson
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While I was tower supervisor at NKT as a SGT, we often had Naval Academy students visit us. Our OIC said to show them respect, not to salute and not to call them sir as they hadn't earned that right yet.
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PO2 Dan Shulla
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Sgt Vernon Anderson - At one point I was stationed on a shp that spent a LOT of time underway. I mean A SHITLOAD OF TIME. One evening in port, after Department Head meeting, I was one the Bridge wing, when an Annapolis Cadet approached me, asking if this was our home port. I laughed and said we don't have one as we don't sit still long enough.
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PO2 Dan Shulla
PO2 Dan Shulla
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Though Cadets have no authority (at the moment) I suggest respect as you may come across them in the future when they do and they'll remember you.
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PO1 Patrick Brogan
PO1 Patrick Brogan
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PO2 Dan Shulla - as a sailor you should know better than to refer to a student at USNA as a "cadet". USCGA, USAFA, USMA are cadets. USNA are midshipmen. ;-)
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SGT Eliyahu Rooff
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I'd love to see one try pulling rank on a CSM. The show would be well worth the price of admission.
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SSgt Jamel Robinson - I retired as an Air Force Chief, and I didn't fear any other Chief. We worked well together.
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SSgt Jamel Robinson
SSgt Jamel Robinson
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CMSgt (Join to see) it was a joke. I understand that the branches work well together.
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SGT Eliyahu Rooff
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MAJ Jim Woods - Would that have been CSM Hayden with 197th Infantry who tossed the cap? I saw him do it a couple times with new LT's reporting in.
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SSgt Jamel Robinson - Sometimes I am a little dense. It is funny.
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SGM Erik Marquez
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SGT (Join to see) See AR 600-20 table 1-1
You will find Academy Cadets and Senior ROTC cadets are in precedence between Warrant officers and NCO.
Generally a Senior ROTC cadet is a 3rd or 4th year scholarship contracted cadet.
So a 1st and 2nd year non contracted cadets have no rank as it applies to service members.

Though in the Cadet command and working with them, we commonly referred to all cadets as "sir" or "Ma'am" Or "Cadet Name"
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Maj Gary Gault
Maj Gary Gault
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Cadets are cadets, learning the roles of NCOs and Officers, their rank is school only!
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MSG Brian Berger
MSG Brian Berger
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LN Cadet, FN Space
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CPT Jerry Lucas
CPT Jerry Lucas
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I suggest each of you read Army Regulation 600-20, Army Command Policy, 6 Nov. 2014. Table 1-1. It lists Cadets and Warrant Officer Candidates between Warrant Officer One and Sergeant Major of the Army. The titles of address are Mr./Mrs./Miss/Ms./Cadet or Candidate. The abbreviation is CDT for cadets and WOC for warrant officer candidates. You might also look at Table 1-2.
https://api.army.mil/e2/c/downloads/399376.pdf
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SPC Bill Bailey
SPC Bill Bailey
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We had one in 1969 and just called him Cadet _____ and sometimes for fun 3rd Lt., which he took in the manner in which it was meant, just for fun. He wrote up and signed (on a piece of paper from an issue Army Memo book) my "Short Timer's Wheels" orders as 3rd Lt. ____, I think I still have that scrap of paper somewhere. He was a Good Man and had the makings of an Excellent Armor Officer, I hope he did well.
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