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I had a newer Private in my unit pose this question to me at my last drill weekend. In context, this Private was walking outside the Company area and saluted a cadet who did not return the salute. I have minimal experience dealing with Cadets, and informed him that I would get a proper answer for him. To my understanding they can be saluted as a sign of respect, but it isn't required yet.
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SGT Victoria Belbusti
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We had a cadet spend a few weeks with us in a Charlie Med one summer. She said we had to salute her. One of my buddies rattled off the regulation you posted above. Then said, "no miss, we do not have to salute you, you haven't commissioned yet, you kind of aren't actually IN the army yet".
The same cadet was quite butthurt and kept terrorizing the lower enlisted for salutes. So we just started to call her "dot" referring to her "rank".
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SrA Angel Rodriguez
SrA Angel Rodriguez
5 mo
Already being arrogant and acting like she’s better. We ran into the cadets while I was in boot. My MTI scared them by driving the flight right towards their direction then switching before we ran them over. It was epic.
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SSG Ken Potts
SSG Ken Potts
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You don't salute them, their title is cadet, just call them spot.
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SSgt Michael Bowen
SSgt Michael Bowen
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Never had an issue with the few Cadets i have helped train . Three had prier service and the one that didn't seemed to have been schooled Quick ,fast and in a hurry by the three that did . But some times when we were talking and i wanted to be a smart @$$ i would say look dot this is the way it's going to be . but it was in jest and they knew it . No butt hurt snowflakes with over inflated egos . Yes i got lucky and so did they because with out the over inflated ego interfering with their training they got more out of the training to learn how to lead , With NCO's and Especially with officers learning the job and how to lead is Paramount .
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SSG David Thompson
SSG David Thompson
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We had an ROTC cadet in my Guard unit back in the’90s. He didn’t try to overstep his position, but apparently he screwed up at school, and all of a sudden he was just another E4.
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SFC George Smith
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NO ... they have Not Yet earned the Right or the Privileges... they still have the opportunity to BOLO
When We were training or had to deal with them ... in the Distant past... they were referred as Cadet... and treated as Sgt. E-5's...
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SPC Steven Nihipali
SPC Steven Nihipali
6 mo
LtCol William Bentley - I'd have cheered for you, sir... sounds like that would've been fun.
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LTC Joe Anderson (Taz or Joe Retired Now in Contract Compliance)
LTC Joe Anderson (Taz or Joe Retired Now in Contract Compliance)
5 mo
Per AR 600-20 Cadets fall between Enlisted and Warrants Officers Ranks.
https://armypubs.army.mil/epubs/DR_pubs/DR_a/pdf/web/r600_20.pdf
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COL Daniel Lindsey
COL Daniel Lindsey
5 mo
LtCol William Bentley - correct with all “T” crossed
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SPC Linda Chandler
SPC Linda Chandler
3 mo
I have had tot deal with a few cadets and Quite frankly sometimes the elevator does not go to the top floor. I think it’s all about respect respect and she gets has to be earned you cannot demand something that you were not worthy of.
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COL Charles Williams
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SSG (Join to see) The answer is in 600-20, but this article summarizes it pretty succinctly...
https://mwi.usma.edu/yes-sergeant-actually-west-point-cadet-outrank/
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SSG Ray Elliott
SSG Ray Elliott
9 mo
When I was in the Navy we would often have Midshipmen come aboard our ship to learn the ins and outs of shipboard life. We were always told to treat them the same as we would Junior officers. The only thing I couldn't bring myself to do was call them sir, so I just referred to them as Midshipman. We would show them around the ship, explain the daily routine to them, tell them about the equipment we maintained, etc. Most of them were very gracious, and didn't cop an attitude. A few could be smartasses, and we could usually put them in their place by reminding them they were there to learn from us. We did salute them when appropriate.
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LtCol William Bentley
LtCol William Bentley
6 mo
SSG Elizabeth LeMere - No, but a CO has the obligation to use common sense and discretion in applying regulations, because sometimes the regs are contradictory, or only partially applicable, or flat out wrong for the situation at hand. CO's are given wide latitude to determine the correct response, but not so much latitude to simply ignore regulations. A CO must always be able to articulate, say for their court-martial or to an Inspector-General, or to their superior, as to why they deviated from the letter of the law or regulation. IF they articulate a reasonable answer, they might still be censured, or not. That is why CO's are, as they say, "paid the big bucks" to use all information available to them to make a decision, and then accept the consequences of their decisions. Cheers,
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SrA Angel Rodriguez
SrA Angel Rodriguez
5 mo
That was a great read.
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SSG Samuel Kermon
SSG Samuel Kermon
2 d
Thank you, sir. Did not know this.
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