Posted on Aug 13, 2020
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I enlisted in the National Guard in 2016 and commissioned through ROTC in 2020. When I process on to active duty will my time in service carry over from my time in the National Guard? I've heard it does, but I've also heard that it will but won't count for the entire 4 years once I get on to active duty. I'm asking more so for the financial side of things considering the difference in pay for an O-1 with 0 years in and an O-1 with 4 years in.
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Your national guard time counts for time in service. I commissioned active duty as an O1 with 5 years of service. You will not be an O-1E.
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Sir, is this because she was a cadet during her NG service period? I assume if she went the OCS route she'd be listed as an O-1E
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For active duty you only get O1E for federal active service.
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COL Alfred Carter
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I retired in 2011 and was a simultaneous membership program enrollee. My national guard time counted for pay only. When I retired the looked at only my active duty portion of my National guard time. The Personnel Service Division then used that time to adjust my service start date to the left. Important is that this was not a year for year swap. For 3 1/2 years I was credited 5 months of active duty time. (Keep your LES statements and you NG service documents (NG Form2). They are gold in validating your time in Service for retirement.
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Your time in service will count for pay but not for retirement. I am over 18 years for pay but I have about 13 years of active service. The gap is from my IRR and National Guard time.
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LTC Brian Wright
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I served in the National Guard for 11 years prior to serving more than 23 years on active duty. A lot of my Guard service was for training, and all told I had about 4 years active duty credit at retirement. All your time will be calculated day for day at retirement. Your Guard time will be counted day for day, not by years of service. So 4 years in the Guard will only count those days you were paid to be in uniform. In terms of pay scale, I was credited for years of service, so when I went on active duty they paid me on the pay scale for 11 years of service, which was a good deal. I’m not sure they still do it that way, but my guess is it is the same.
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MAJ John Lavin
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After 9/11 my brother in law, who was a pilot in the ANG in fighters and when called up after 9/11 a pilot flying KC-135’s. He had more than 16 years in the ANG and the call up after 9/11 was his first AD other than two years of pilot training when he was a 2LT. He was a brand new ANG LTC when he got called up. After doing all the math, he was credited with being a LTC on AD with 9 years AD credit when he was called up. Because his unit was in the Northeast Tanker Task Force he was on AD for 5 years after being called up and when he retired in 2013 he was credited with 14 years AD time and 27 years ANG time, both as an ANG part timer and as a ANG Technician. So to put it bluntly, as he so often did, he used to say to me that I always knew exactly how many years I had toward retirement but he needed a 2 million dollar super computer to figure out when he would have enough time to put in his paperwork for retirement. I always agreed with him.
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