Posted on Jun 14, 2018
SPC Christian Ziegler
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Many of us younger Veterans have try'd and failed to either join and make a difference at our local VFW or where just tolled out right to shut up we are just young bucks we don't know anything. We didn't have it that hard. The VFW's i have visited in my area are all the same the Vietnam guys run them like a old boys club, i'll see some younger members join and show up for 1 maybe 2 meetings and never again. I try'd to change it by becoming a leader in the post i became Jr. Vice Commander they liked the ideas but did nothing. SO i moved up to Sr. Vice did that for 2 years was working on my 3rd year when they started there why cant we get younger members bit again and i tolled them and i was tolled i would be thrown out by the Sargent at Arms for using curs words. Mind you i had paid my 20$ in the swear jar so i could tell them and i had barley used 10$ cause i was not dropping the f- bomb. So i went to another post same thing the old guys are not doing anything but they don't want to change they don't want to adapt to younger veterans. They don't want to realize. We talk a little harsher than them and no we will not be tolled to shut up. We have family's with kids and we enjoy a brother hood so we like get together's like cook outs. We know when we are not wanted and the Vietnam Vets don't want us in the meeting they just as VFW members and that wont fly for us.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
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uh... My VFWs have always been awesome... I don't doubt that you may have had a bad experience with some guys/gals but most of the organizations are top notch. Where are you located geographically?
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SPC Christian Ziegler
SPC Christian Ziegler
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Im here in WV, i have visited posts all over the state and even in OH and some in KY. The only places i found there not that bad is close to military bases.
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SPC Kent VanDevender
SPC Kent VanDevender
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The guys in Fairmont post 695 didn’t seem to act like that..it was Smokey though
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SGT William Moore
SGT William Moore
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Good for you...
Every VFW I've ever been to or volunteered with has been a total shit show. (Kentucky) outside of very large one's. Unwelcoming vets who tell younger vets there not real vets and didn't fight real wars.
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SGT Joseph Gunderson
SGT Joseph Gunderson
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SGT William Moore okay... So find a new post. I don't see how whining about particular posts is in any way a useful exercise. Move to another one, or run for a position and change it.
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MSgt George Cater
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What the f**k you mean you talk worse than us tired a*s old senile Vietnam Vets? I seriously resent that. You obviously weren’t one of my prives back in the dark ages. We made Lee Ermey sound like a choirboy.
But seriously, I think it totally sucks that you and your generation of vets aren’t welcomed with open arms and admiration as worthy to carry the torch of veteran’s issues. WTF? Just because we have cell phones and such and can fly home from the war zone in a day doesn’t mean deployment or war is a skate. Today’s IEDs aren’t punji sticks or grenades stacked in a LAW tube. They are much worse as you know. I personally don’t go to the MCL, VFW, AMVETS, American Legion, etc as I don’t enjoy stinking smoky bars. But if I were an active member, I’d welcome you. So start your own organization. VMW sounds good. There are certainly enough of you to do it.

BTW, thanks much for your service.
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Edited 6 y ago
I am a Vietnam Veteran who happens to be a life VFW Member, although I have never been to a Post. I joined because a VFW VSO helped me with my claim. Do not blame your issues on Vietnam Veterans. I had never heard of this new organization before today and excluding veterans that served before 1990 seems too exclusive for me. We are all brothers and sisters that served, and it would be better to find common ground than exclude groups that you do not like.
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SPC Christian Ziegler
SPC Christian Ziegler
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I must amend what i said. I know a lot Vietnam Vet and call them friends. But others don't want us at there meeting.
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SGT William Moore
SGT William Moore
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You should remember that the VFW and AL didn't allow Vietnam vets for years after the war ended because they didn't consider you a "real vet" And you didn't fight a "real war"

Same thing today, you get told to shut up and that "Sand box kids" are not real vets. And lord forbid you be a female.
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