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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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Great video share sit, thank you.
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SSG Robert Webster
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At least it employed a number of people.
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The fact that you're still saying "this was not a wasted effort" because (and solely because) "it put meals on a number of tables..." shows that you still fail to understand that this was a necessary RTD&E step IN AND OF ITSELF.


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You want jobs programs? There are a LOT more effective ways. How about something like Port security? Infrastructure programs? Something(s) that delivers a useful product to the American people at the end.
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SSG Robert Webster
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MAJ (Join to see) - Really? Maybe, I am failing to see that SpaceX is a 'private enterprise' or 'private company' and not a government entity?
I would have sworn that SpaceX was and is a privately funded company, did I miss something there?

Your speaking as though SpaceX is a government entity and not a private enterprise. Not only that their (SpaceX) R&D work is almost if not entirely privately funded.
Let's compare that to Port Security that you mention - primarily government funded with some charging of cost to port facility users. Or 'infrastructure programs' that depends upon what type of infratructure that you are trying to discuss; Transportation - roads government (federal, state, and local), railroads mostly private enterprise; electrical grid private enterprise for the most part; water a highly explosive mix of private and government with water property rights issues in the mix; communications private enterprise.
As for delivering a useful product to the American people, well I am sure that satelite TV and private communications satelites both production and placement in orbit contracted between private companies provides a number of useful products for both the American market and others.

Space Exploration Technologies Corp., doing business as SpaceX, is a private American aerospace manufacturer and space transport services company headquartered in Hawthorne, California. It was founded in 2002 by entrepreneur Elon Musk with the goal of reducing space transportation costs and enabling the colonization of Mars. SpaceX has since developed the Falcon launch vehicle family and the Dragon spacecraft family, which both currently deliver payloads into Earth orbit.
SpaceX's achievements include the first privately funded liquid-propellant rocket to reach orbit (Falcon 1 in 2008), the first privately funded company to successfully launch, orbit, and recover a spacecraft (Dragon in 2010), the first private company to send a spacecraft to the International Space Station (Dragon in 2012), the first propulsive landing for an orbital rocket (Falcon 9 in 2015), the first reuse of an orbital rocket (Falcon 9 in 2017), and the first privately funded space agency to launch an object into solar orbit (Falcon Heavy in 2018). SpaceX has flown ten missions to the International Space Station (ISS) under a cargo resupply contract. NASA also awarded SpaceX a further development contract in 2011 to develop and demonstrate a human-rated Dragon, which would be used to transport astronauts to the ISS and return them safely to Earth.

Sounds a lot like UPS/FEDEX or other private enterprises that are indirectly or directly putting the USPS out of business.
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Holy dogshit you missed my point twice, and THE point three times. We're done here
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SSG Robert Webster
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MAJ (Join to see) - Obviously you missed my first point entirely, since I made the comment that you responded to. So yes, I believe we are finished since you apparently completely misunderstood what I said to begin with on purpose.
Secondly you are trying to state that they should act like a government entity when they are no such thing, so what is your problem.
AND NO I DID NOT INFER that the launch was a wasted effort.

What you could infer if you could from the few words that I used that I thought it was a silly endeavor to launch an automobile with a dummy into space as space junk, and in that you would be quite correct, and THAT was a wasted endeavor since now it is a useless hunk of junk for other more worthwhile projects to have to concern themselves with. but since I did not state that from the beginning, nor infer it till now - oh, well.
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