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Changing the VA Motto (RP Member thoughts)
I was sent this link regarding the need for a VA motto change:
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/05/03/some-women-veterans-want-va-change-its-culture-starting-motto.html
I could not agree more that the VA needs to change its motto to reflect the service of all our warriors regardless of personal identification references. Here is the current motto:
Here is how I would rewrite the motto to reflect the 21st century and beyond:
"To provide or coordinate the effective care for ALL who shall have borne the battle and for those family members left behind to care for the injured warrior or provide for the means of healing and wellness of those families for those warriors who paid the ultimate price for freedom."
This recommended language in my opinion is more appropriate and by....
- Adding "...provide or coordinate the effective..." kind of language provides the path for a shared VA / Commercial Healthcare responsibility in the 360 degree care of vets and even veteran families;
- Replaces the word "him" with the word "ALL". All also indicates gender, sexual orientation, age, race/ethnicity, war service period, chronic disease status that such are not withstanding regarding the need for care;
- Replaces "his widow and orphan" language with language that Includes the family and their role in the care picture for their warriors and themselves as family members.
When you think of it, the VA and others are saying this already. It would seem reasonable to make this argument to Congress and the VA. This would also encourage the nation's healthcare community to seek that they are part of the nation's overall system for taking care of our Warriors and their families.
I'd be very interested in the thoughts of my RP friends.
In closing, as long as people serve with honor and mutual respect, we should ALL enjoy language that does not communicate that one group enjoys more service over the other (aka making one group "more equal" than another); rather, that if you serve with honor that you deserve to be treated and care for -- not out of pity or since of prior injustice to a particular group, but with respect for the sacrifices great or small you and your family as a result of your service regardless of the group with which a veteran may identify.
COL Mikel J. Burroughs; LCdr (Rabbah) Rona Matlow; Maj Marty Hogan; SMSGT Gerald "Doc" Thomas; SCPO Morris Ramsey; Lt Col Charlie Brown; Maj Alea Nadeem; LTC (Join to see); Maj William W. 'Bill' Price; LTC Stephen C.; LTC Stephen F.; COL Lee Flemming; Lt Col Charlie Brown; Capt Dwayne Conyers; LTJG (Join to see); CMSgt (Join to see)
I was sent this link regarding the need for a VA motto change:
https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/05/03/some-women-veterans-want-va-change-its-culture-starting-motto.html
I could not agree more that the VA needs to change its motto to reflect the service of all our warriors regardless of personal identification references. Here is the current motto:
Here is how I would rewrite the motto to reflect the 21st century and beyond:
"To provide or coordinate the effective care for ALL who shall have borne the battle and for those family members left behind to care for the injured warrior or provide for the means of healing and wellness of those families for those warriors who paid the ultimate price for freedom."
This recommended language in my opinion is more appropriate and by....
- Adding "...provide or coordinate the effective..." kind of language provides the path for a shared VA / Commercial Healthcare responsibility in the 360 degree care of vets and even veteran families;
- Replaces the word "him" with the word "ALL". All also indicates gender, sexual orientation, age, race/ethnicity, war service period, chronic disease status that such are not withstanding regarding the need for care;
- Replaces "his widow and orphan" language with language that Includes the family and their role in the care picture for their warriors and themselves as family members.
When you think of it, the VA and others are saying this already. It would seem reasonable to make this argument to Congress and the VA. This would also encourage the nation's healthcare community to seek that they are part of the nation's overall system for taking care of our Warriors and their families.
I'd be very interested in the thoughts of my RP friends.
In closing, as long as people serve with honor and mutual respect, we should ALL enjoy language that does not communicate that one group enjoys more service over the other (aka making one group "more equal" than another); rather, that if you serve with honor that you deserve to be treated and care for -- not out of pity or since of prior injustice to a particular group, but with respect for the sacrifices great or small you and your family as a result of your service regardless of the group with which a veteran may identify.
COL Mikel J. Burroughs; LCdr (Rabbah) Rona Matlow; Maj Marty Hogan; SMSGT Gerald "Doc" Thomas; SCPO Morris Ramsey; Lt Col Charlie Brown; Maj Alea Nadeem; LTC (Join to see); Maj William W. 'Bill' Price; LTC Stephen C.; LTC Stephen F.; COL Lee Flemming; Lt Col Charlie Brown; Capt Dwayne Conyers; LTJG (Join to see); CMSgt (Join to see)
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Department of Veterans Affairs (VA)
Women in the Military
Disabled Veterans
Family
Healthcare
Department of Veterans Affairs (VA) Women in the Military Disabled Veterans Family Healthcare
Edited 5 y ago
Posted 5 y ago
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I really haven’t seen too many mottos that are a paragraph long. Perhaps it’s more of a mission statement than a motto?
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Capt Daniel Goodman
I'm sorry, I'd missed that one...that is extremely good, actually...sorry I didn't see it before, I thought I'd looked through the thread sufficiently, my goof, obviously....
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Capt Daniel Goodman
And that really was an outstanding idea, sir, honest...just figured I should say that, obviously, as well...
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The Original motto was written when we did have so many butthurt liberals worrying about being politically correct. What we should be doing now is caring for our veterans and families not trying to create a debate about a politically correct motto.
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CPO Nate S.
Senior (Shipmate), frankly, I don't think it is at all about "political correctness." Like you I am not a proponent of unfettered "political correctness" just to make someone "feel good", rather a change in language reflects the greater diversity of our war fighter community.
Also, I in my current job as a Data Scientist I also conduct research. Recently, I have become more familiar with the roles of our female war fighters of the history of our nation. Please click this Linkedin link (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/female-veterans-women-courage-honor-spirit-need-nathan-szejniuk/) to see a recent brief article I wrote. I think you will as an "old salt" agree with my assessment.
Thanks again shipmate for allowing me to share!
Also, I in my current job as a Data Scientist I also conduct research. Recently, I have become more familiar with the roles of our female war fighters of the history of our nation. Please click this Linkedin link (https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/female-veterans-women-courage-honor-spirit-need-nathan-szejniuk/) to see a recent brief article I wrote. I think you will as an "old salt" agree with my assessment.
Thanks again shipmate for allowing me to share!
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To be honest my friend CPO Nate S. I prefer the current motto which is short, poignant and was stated by an honorable President of the USA.
What you have posted is too long to be a motto that would be emblazoned on all VAMC walls IMHO.
I concur with the assessment of COL (Join to see) that the proposed language seems to be better incorporated into a mission statement; "To provide or coordinate the effective care for ALL who shall have borne the battle and for those family members left behind to care for the injured warrior or provide for the means of healing and wellness of those families for those warriors who paid the ultimate price for freedom."
What do you think?
LTC Orlando Illi LTC (Join to see) LTC Ivan Raiklin, Esq. Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. 'Bill' Price Capt Seid Waddell Capt Jeff S. CPT Jack Durish MSgt Robert C Aldi SFC Stephen King MSgt Danny Hope SGT Gregory Lawritson Cpl Craig Marton SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT (Join to see) Maj Marty Hogan SPC Margaret Higgins
What you have posted is too long to be a motto that would be emblazoned on all VAMC walls IMHO.
I concur with the assessment of COL (Join to see) that the proposed language seems to be better incorporated into a mission statement; "To provide or coordinate the effective care for ALL who shall have borne the battle and for those family members left behind to care for the injured warrior or provide for the means of healing and wellness of those families for those warriors who paid the ultimate price for freedom."
What do you think?
LTC Orlando Illi LTC (Join to see) LTC Ivan Raiklin, Esq. Maj Bill Smith, Ph.D. Maj William W. 'Bill' Price Capt Seid Waddell Capt Jeff S. CPT Jack Durish MSgt Robert C Aldi SFC Stephen King MSgt Danny Hope SGT Gregory Lawritson Cpl Craig Marton SP5 Mark Kuzinski SGT (Join to see) Maj Marty Hogan SPC Margaret Higgins
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CPO Nate S.
LTC Stephen F. I agree with you and others that this is more a mission statement. What I really like is what COL (Join to see) came up with as a possible replacement motto: - "To care for those that have sacrificed for the nation." (I'd add just to be clear - "To care for those that have sacrificed as they borne the battle in war or peace to defend our nation.")
Figured it is good for men and women of honor to debate this. The motto will change, because unlike say the Scout Motto "Be Prepared" it is not as timeless as the Scout Motto. That said, again I think COL (Join to see) version is much more timeless.
I would hope that if the VA does make a chance what they will do are put forward samples and allow the 18- 20 million veterans to vote. Not sure how they might do that, but it is something they could talk to on the VA website and then serve notice that voting would go in say, I don't know 3 rounds at 90 day intervals to whittle down ideas. Just a thought. I think if the language comes from vets like that of Col Harris's idea or my modification of his idea, then that would be a good thing. Who knows, but the conversation has begun.
Figured it is good for men and women of honor to debate this. The motto will change, because unlike say the Scout Motto "Be Prepared" it is not as timeless as the Scout Motto. That said, again I think COL (Join to see) version is much more timeless.
I would hope that if the VA does make a chance what they will do are put forward samples and allow the 18- 20 million veterans to vote. Not sure how they might do that, but it is something they could talk to on the VA website and then serve notice that voting would go in say, I don't know 3 rounds at 90 day intervals to whittle down ideas. Just a thought. I think if the language comes from vets like that of Col Harris's idea or my modification of his idea, then that would be a good thing. Who knows, but the conversation has begun.
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