Posted on Oct 1, 2020
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I live off post near fort Riley. I had gotten home from work and knew I needed to run to the store. I decided I’d take my bicycle to get a little workout in and relax a bit. I quickly changed and went to the store. Within the 1 hr 30 min, to 2hr time frame, someone had broken into my locked truck and stolen my assault pack, a cold weather jacket, my military police vest, and belt. They also stole some personal things but that’s not what I’m super concerned about. My unit is saying that I can’t store TA-50 in my vehicle, and that They’ll give me a FLIPL and I’ll pay for it out of pocket. Is there ANYTHING that can help me out here? And yes, I realize how stupid and lazy it was to not run my bag and vest inside, I completely understand that it’s my fault. I should’ve done it, and I’ve learned a lesson here. Thank you for any advice or comments.
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File a police report. It won't do anything and they'll never get your stuff back but it will give you evidence of the theft. There is nothing in the regulations that says you can't store OCIE in a locked vehicle. Unless your unit has that "no OCIE in vehicles" policy in writing, they can't enforce it. Talk to JAG. I had my POV broken into in the PX parking lot and they stole my field jacket. FLIPL and it was written off.
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I've seen it go both ways, depends on the FLIPL authority. I've written one off in the past and held two others accountable. A quick run into the PX would get written off, leaving it over night in the parking lot of an apartment complex in an unsecure car would not...yours sounds like it was temporarily left in the car but some commanders will say it should have went straight into the house...police report will help especially if forced entry (broken window?) since it shows you secured it, if no evidence of forced entry other than your word it was locked, could be problematic...USAA will pay some after deductible as well. Good luck!
SSG Robert Perrotto
SSG Robert Perrotto
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I have seen it go both ways, as in, if the break occurred during a time of training, in which the specific items were required to perform said training, then yes, a police report along with an itemized list of what was stolen. If you are just storing those items in your vehicle instead of at home, on a permanent basis, then be prepared to be found at fault at the end of the FLIPL investigation.

There is a reason why most NCO's will give guidance about TA-50 and storing it in your vehicle, A vehicle is not as secure as your home.
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Police report and itemized list of TA 50 stolen and present that to your Command and S4
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CW5 Jack Cardwell
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Have you contacted your insurance company? Depends on your policy they might cover some of it.
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SPC John Smith
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Most carriers exclude business, government supplied contents since those are not considered personal contents and would be covered by other lines.
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