Posted on Aug 1, 2018
LTC Tom Jones
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Major General Smedley Butler, USMC, thought so/said so in 1935. As a two time recipient of the Congressional Medal of Honor, he surely earned the right to his opinion.
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To add to the conversation, I think this should be added from the same book as your quote.

“I spent 33 years and four months in active military service and during that period I spent most of my time as a high class muscle man for Big Business, for Wall Street and the bankers. In short, I was a racketeer, a gangster for capitalism. I helped make Mexico and especially Tampico safe for American oil interests in 1914. I helped make Haiti and Cuba a decent place for the National City Bank boys to collect revenues in. I helped in the raping of half a dozen Central American republics for the benefit of Wall Street. I helped purify Nicaragua for the International Banking House of Brown Brothers in 1902-1912. I brought light to the Dominican Republic for the American sugar interests in 1916. I helped make Honduras right for the American fruit companies in 1903. In China in 1927 I helped see to it that Standard Oil went on its way unmolested. Looking back on it, I might have given Al Capone a few hints. The best he could do was to operate his racket in three districts. I operated on three continents.”
― Smedley D. Butler, War is a Racket: The Antiwar Classic by America's Most Decorated Soldier.
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LTC Tom Jones
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Thanks, SGT (Join to see), for this added background. Obviously, the original question was a very solidly rhetorical one in the mind of MG Butler and he pulled no punches in driving his point home. Given that his remarks were made, I understand, at a convention of the VFW, have to wonder what the audience response was. Mixed, I'm sure, but I doubt that any where expecting to hear this perspective going in. Thanks, again, for the share.
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Yes - a lot of people profit off war. It's no secret.
Side note: I hate when things say "winner" or "won" the Medal of Honor. You can't "win" it.
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I believe it has been established that he did indeed make these statements, to a convention of the VFW in the 1930s. If true, then I also believe his insights were mirrored by those of Eisenhower, and even Kennedy...both of whom warned us against the unseen forces of power manipulating mankind for their own profit.

The experience and wisdom of these men is not in question.

What is in question is what "we" do about it, and whether or not those of us who have continued to raise our hands in promise to participate if required, have done so ill-advisedly.

For my own part, I believe that even when faced with total knowledge of any such manipulation, young people will continue to volunteer to serve. I'm certain I would have made the same choice...even if I had been wise enough to consider their words (which at the time, I was not). Why? Because there is enormous power in the sense of having "paid into" a system before one has the "right" to question it...let alone make what small contributions they can to influence a more positive outcome.

That is an admittedly idealistic...rather than practical viewpoint.

Unfortunately, in the back of our collective consciousness, we understand what the price would be for willful and organized resistance to that call. If all the ethical youth of a generation simply refused to make that commitment, less ethical mercenaries and adventure seekers would. If our Armed Forces became nothing more than "hired thugs" for a rapacious, economic and political juggernaut...it wouldn't be long before the threat of that force being leveraged against the People would be realized.

In that sense, I hope better people do continue to volunteer to serve in the Military, and fight when and where necessary. Policy is made at the highest levels, but enacted at the lowest. From the highest ranking general officer who challenges an unlawful order...to the lowest ranking private solider who projects mercy, compassion and justice down their gun sights...we serve as the greatest defense against atrocity, abuse and tyranny.

I am reminded of St. Maurice and the Theban Legion, Major Hugh Thompson, and LT Michael Murphy...warriors who risked everything to stand up for a higher purpose in war.
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LTC Tom Jones
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Thanks for a most thoughtful share, LCDR (Join to see). I did not have a realistic choice when I raised my right hand in 1967 (drafted) but I did believe that the leadership of the day knew what was best for the country, for our allies and for the future. Cannot say I feel that way today. That you find reminiscence of those mentioned is really, really great. I find myself thinking about McNamara, LBJ, Dean Rusk and both Clintons. Thanks, again; I need a beer. SGT (Join to see) SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth CW5 Jack Cardwell CPT Jack Durish
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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Thank you for the share and mention sir.
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CPT Jack Durish
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LTC Tom Jones - You should. There was a threat and we stopped it. The communists may have "won" South Vietnam when we turned our backs on them. But there were other invasions going on in Southeast Asia concurrent with the one into South Vietnam and our resistance destroyed their ability to prosecute those wars successfully. Thailand. Indonesia. And others did not fall into communist hands. The threat to Australia never materialized. Take comfort at least in that.
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Jack-I think there are two distinct points here; first-many of these wars do have real purpose; if they didn't, then the "Military Industrial Complex" would've found it difficult to ever materialize in the first place. The second is that the legitimate threats aside, how much are our forces "held back", misused, mismanaged or otherwise taken advantage of towards the ancillary cause of profit? For me, the "slush fund" has become too big to hide any longer, and everyone "knows" where the waste, fraud and abuse is...we just know that pulling the rug out from under the system would simultaneously create generations of bad news to follow. I don't really want to go so far as to suggest certain threats were "created" by that mismanagement...but it's not difficult to sit back and wonder how much destruction could've been avoided by counting the cost first.
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