SGT Jeff Bush

Sorry, battle roster, not MTOE. I was thinking one thing and typing something else.

MAJ (Join to see) Why are their so many stupid people in the military???

Because we have senior leadership asking question like this rather than getting to the meat of the story. Remember when you point a finger at a person three of them point back at you. I mite have used the term is trained rather than stupid. Stupid shouts at Lack of training. Buy the upper chain of command. Who approves the training in the unit. JMTC

SFC Robert Walton - It's the only place they can go and thrive! In the real world these people would be failures. (Trust me- I've met them).

SGT (Verify To See) - I hate that you're right about "popularity contest" comment. I'm living proof of that comment.

SGT John Graham - I used the off-line conversation and "S#!^ List" method myself over paperwork to great effect back in the day. I always found paperwork most productive when used as a last resort. Conversely, as a retired "Dirty Contractor", I have found the method unproductive; difference in authority and environment I suppose.

SGT John Graham - We all screwed up at times. In return for one of mine I stood tall Monday morning. The CO was a Mustang Captain, and the 1stSgt was solid. My penalty was a slot at NCO Corporal's Course in February. Lots of ice at Quantico. They made me Company Guide when I made Sergeant. It was due to good initiative but poor judgement on my part. I was blessed by those leaders that gave me a chance, and it set the example for my leadership challenges later.

PO1 Michael Turnbeaugh - This.

100% agree with your statement CWO3 McIntosh. His leadership failed him.

When my kids were born I had already worked a plan with my 1SG. I prepared a leave request and left the dates blank. When my wife went into labor I notified my unit and they initiated my leave (no maternity leave back then). Three kids and never had a problems. If this soldier coordinated his and the NCO;eave prior to the blessed event he is in the right and the NCO is totally wrong.

No. This goes to every female member of Congress . This needs the heavy artillery to make a point.

Sgt Lisa Turner - sorry Sarge but it needs to go up the Chain of Command FIRST. During my 30 years active duty (4 Navy; 26 Coast Guard) I have watched the Chain of Command work as it should so many times that I firmly believe in it; I know of one that went all the way from a small unit to the 3 Star Vice Admiral Area Commander who 1st approved the request then 2nd said WTF; why wasn’t this resolved at the unit level? The SN (E3) followed the COC and was prepared to request a decision from the Commandant if necessary.
Going outside of the COC has its purpose but by following the COC you give it a chance to do what it supposed to do.
Methinks, along the same line that CSM Biggs: heck it took me two minutes to find this gem of a document: https://myarmybenefits.us.army.mil/Benefit-Library/Federal-Benefits/Military-Parental-Leave-Program-(MPLP)?serv=122

Damn if this 68 almost 69 year old retired CWO4 can find the it in 2 minutes well I won’t make any inferences; but it was me? I’d photocopy the Regs, highlight the pertinent sections and forward as far up the COC as necessary. If the COC doesn’t approve it (and doesn’t have a legit reason why - then I’d contact my elected Members of Congress with all your ducks in a row.

Good luck!

If this was my Soldier I would stand up for them as their first line. Absolutely no way in hell i’d negatively counsel any SM for missing a formation due to their child being born. This is definitely a learning opportunity on all levels.