Posted on Dec 2, 2019
SSG Bob Ricci
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SGM Steve Wettstein
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31B MPs don't really do SoG. Patrol Supervisor is what we usually do. The rank is usually SGT(P) or SSG Squad Leaders. 31E MPs (I/R, detainee Ops) don't know what their SOPs are.
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SSG Bob Ricci
SSG Bob Ricci
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That was my exact thought, SGM. But I've been out so long and when I left the military world most posts were open. Since 9/11 when everything is shut down I know that they're checking at just about every post that I'm aware of. I'm reading of a young man who has claimed her rather illustrious career has DST then a very brief. Of time on the road followed by MPI for a couple of years followed by SOG. My BS detector is going off because for my own experience once you're in MPI you stay there until you become a senior NCO. I don't think the Army spends so much money training at SPC to be MPI only to put him back into a line unit. The regulations don't explicitly state that but in my own experience and for those of the others I know that was the case. Once you reach E7 it's my understanding that the military would then have concentrated my remaining time on advanced leadership skills. I'm just following up on my BS detector. Thanks for the reply SGM.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
SGM Steve Wettstein
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SSG Bob Ricci - When I was the OPs SGT at Stewart and Provost SGM at Bragg, I had SFCs as MPI NOICs. But you are correct, once V5s get SNCO they normally would go to a line company, but we had an overage of SFCs in the MP Battalion so they got assigned as NCOICs. Also, the only way a V5 gets pulled out of MPI would be an overage of V5 MPs at the post or the got in trouble and got their creds pulled. At Bragg I had to get V5s pulled from 16th MP BDE because we were really short handed V5s. I even had one of the DA Police Officers pulled from patrol to MPI. The NCO was pissed because he had to keep doing MPI but I had to remind him that he was the one that volunteered to go to the school and that Big Army is going to get their moneys worth of them training you.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
SGM Steve Wettstein
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CPL Tim Wright SSG Bob Ricci - At Bragg and Stewart we never really a requirement of what ranks needed at a particular gate. It was handled by the Units. But I know they would usually put teams and squads at the same gate when possible. And now that I am typing this, the units did have a SOGs for their MPs at the Gates. The only thing that I did for them was give them some radios and they would sign for a van for transportion.
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CPL Tim Wright
CPL Tim Wright
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I wouldn't say we had required ranks at the gates, everyone from my PSG to a new PVT would work gates when it was our rotation before patrols, though it was rare for my PSG to have to work gates. There were a few we only let Team Leaders or higher work because of the type of traffic through those gates; too many PVTs messing up in front of higher ups so they made TLs work those gates hahaha. But we handled everything just about like you did: Signed our weapons out, conducted our brief and rode out with the civilian guards, radios stayed at the gates.
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CPL Tim Wright
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SoG? Could you refreshen my horrible memory SSG? I'm horrible for abbreviations and acronyms and the army loves them both dearly.
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SGM Steve Wettstein
SGM Steve Wettstein
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SoG = Sergeant of the Guard.
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SSG Bob Ricci
SSG Bob Ricci
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You aren't the only one with a fading of the memory. Sergeant of the Guard. We didn't have that when I was in.
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CPL Tim Wright
CPL Tim Wright
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Yeah I was running different duties through my head like Staff Duty, Patrol Supe, Desk Sergeant, etc hahaha.
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Are you referring to Sergeant of the Gaurd? As 31 series my enlisted soldiers also work the gates at JBLM. It’s normally a SGT or SSG. When we are super short handed I’ve also seen SPC(P) or CPLd conduct SoG duties.

Hope this helps.
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