Posted on Jul 28, 2017
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I know refusing to jump is punishable under UCMJ ART 92. I am wondering what qualifies a SM to being a jump refusal?
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CW5 Ranger Dave
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NOBODY ever refused or froze in my door. If you made it to the door you were going out one way or another.
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Monty Leverett
Monty Leverett
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I really wish I'd joined when I was young enough, I'd be the guy hyped to jump at first, I've always wanted to. Now, I'm getting old, bad knees and back, and sadly, no chance of jumping.
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COL Victor Hagan
COL Victor Hagan
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MSgt Ronnie Kelly - That was stupid. Had she been injuried or worse on that jump he would have lost him career at best and possibly his freedom.
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SP5 Rich Levesque
SP5 Rich Levesque
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I remember being told that "if we refused at the door, well, we were going anyway". I do not recall any refusals.
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SP5 Michael Barczykowski
SP5 Michael Barczykowski
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If you're still in jump school, it's straight to the Animal Farm. If not, your Airborne career is over.
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When at the door the jump master will give you the command to "go." On the third command he will pull you at from the door. The assistant jump master will then have you sit on your hands on the aircraft. Upon landing a rigger will inspect your equipment. If no faults are going you could receive UCMJ and termination of any orders to an airborne unit.
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SPC David Willis
SPC David Willis
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PFC Bradley Campbell - In a combat jump a refusal to jump out the door means one less rifle will be shooting at the enemy. Im not saying they should be beat or anything, but usually a refusal to jump would come in training and not at the AB unit so they would just be dropped from the school.
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MAJ Norm Michaels
MAJ Norm Michaels
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SPC David Willis - the refusal to jump eliminates not just the refuser, but the remainder of that stick. Refusal to jump is no different than refusal to drive, refusal to march, etc. if there are mitigating circumstances, the UCMJ Commander will take that into account.
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Brad Miller
Brad Miller
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SPC David Willis - Wouldn't it also affect the "spread" of the jump? The lag in getting the rest of the stick out the door would lead to a wider area of landing? Not a good thing, I would think.
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SGT Jmajik Jmann
SGT Jmajik Jmann
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PFC Campbell: The SSG is correct in AR 600-8-22, Ch. 1-31c. I've been out of the Army since 1992 mainly because after Desert Storm, I had no choice but to ETS. My Mom didn't want to get another Flag given to her, as in the case of my younger brother. I know I could've did 20/30/maybe 40 years in but, when Mom is right about her instincts as a Mother, no argument or reasoning can override that. I enjoyed being stationed at Bragg--Benning--and with the 3/505th 173rd more so, I miss a lot of comrades and close buddies, some I served with in Desert Storm and some, in various ABN. Units I got orders for but overall, it's about "CHOICE", especially when it comes to Orders being cut to a Unit you may/may not like or want to be assigned to but then, everyone has their own opinion and experiences being a 'trooper". Accomplish the Mission is the overall priority, regardless of fear--doubt--logic.....
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SSG Watercraft Enginieer
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Here is what happens to the Airborne Badge
AR 600-8-22, Ch. 1-31c
(2) Parachutist Badge. Any Parachutist badge may be revoked when the awardee—
(a) Is punished under the Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) for refusal to participate in a parachute jump.
(b) Initiates action which results in termination of airborne status or withdrawal of any Career Management Field (CMF) 18 military occupational specialty (MOS), 180A or specialty skill identifier (SSI) 18A before he or she completes 36 cumulative months of airborne duty. Any parachutist badge with bronze star for a combat jump will be retained regardless of time on airborne status. Any parachutist badge will be retained if the Soldier is unable to complete 36 cumulative months of airborne duty through no fault of his or her own, for example, injury or reassignment under favorable conditions.
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MSG Chuck Pewsey
MSG Chuck Pewsey
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MAJ Lou Giamo - Sounds reasonable to me.
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MAJ Norm Michaels
MAJ Norm Michaels
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I started jumping in 1972, and I was always afraid. I used to joke that all my jumps were night jumps, since my eyes were usually closed.... just joking, but I was always afraid. Being a soldier is overcoming all fears and accomplishing the mission.
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SSG Timothy McCoy
SSG Timothy McCoy
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Do I understand this correctly, that if a jumper completes 36 months of continuous Jump status, the SM will not be punished?
In approx. 1994, I was in the 1st Bde of the 82nd. There was a E-5 or 6 motorman was a jump refusal, but had been in this unit for over 4 years. As I remember, he was around the unit for a few day wearing a PC, soft cap. Then he was gone. Maybe his Art 15 caught up with him later.

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SGM Bill Frazer
SGM Bill Frazer
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SSG Timothy McCoy - NO if they are a jump refusal at anytime, and no equipment issues are found then they can be punished under Art 92, but they will be able to keep their wings, but I guarantee they will be transferred to a non-airborne unit as quickly as possible.
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