Posted on Jun 7, 2016
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Because they are not that special. I think we have enough badges. We don't wan't to look like a North Korean General.
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Sgt SHF Satellite Communications Operator-Maintainer
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Lmao sir
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Sgt Dale Briggs
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LTC Robert McKenna -
There's enough metal on them they don't need body armor.
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SGT Joseph Biehn
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I absolutely agree with you 95%- 99%. The percentage I don't agree is for the reason that young/lower enlisted( lack of knowledge) may not know what you are & your achievements. I believe having a tab or badge is a great way to show your soldiers & everyone else what you've accomplished, earned, & achieved. However, I do strongly believe that there are enough tabs/badges that are simply not necessary. Because of these newer generations of military men & women who somehow have this self entitlement, I believe there will be more pointless badges/tabs created. If that happens, we are creating worthless military men & women which in turn will destroy all of our U.S. Military branches. Well, that's what I'm fore seeing anyways
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1SG Patrick Sims
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I retired as a 1st Sergeant with twenty seven years of service. MY first dress inspection as a 1st Sergeant I had five rows of gongs. As I looked at myself in the mirror I felt a decorated Christmas tree. It not that I wasn't proud of what I had done, I didn't want the troops to think I was something I wasn't. In the end I took off two rows. I don't regret doing this, and I know it was against regulations, but it was the right thing to do.
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Priority target of a sniper, is other snipers. The instructors drilled in into our heads to not make ourselves obvious that we were snipers. Why make yourself a target? As for Master Gunner, I'm sure its a difficult school, but the one I knew, was a complete shit bag who would start and finish every sentence with, "well in MG school..." Badges and tabs are meant to be rare because they distinguish someone for something that not a lot of people do. Don't turn uniform flare into a participation trophy.
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SGT Ryan Fleek
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SSG (Join to see) - The LN wandering around your COP gather this kind of Intel. Of course they aren't going to see it from a hide. You go on patrol, you are walking through villages. People can see your uniform.
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SGT Ryan Fleek
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SSG (Join to see) - I assume sterile uniforms are still not authorized in the coventional army.
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Fleek you don’t wear badges or tabs while deployed
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SGT Ryan Fleek
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I retired seven years ago. I don’t know if they stopped wearing their tabs on deployments. I can only speak from back then. But they wore tabs then.
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Tell me you are joking?
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Sgt SHF Satellite Communications Operator-Maintainer
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Lmao I said the same thing when I read this
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SSG (Join to see) - I hope that's not what the army is about lol I see all these commercial they never talk about that
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LTC Paul Labrador - I still wonder why the NCOPDR was created, its the definition of a participation ribbon, especially with the STEP program, you can automatically tell their level of NCOES- its on their rank.
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SFC Matthew Mason - I always love seeing the 11 series talk down to the Scouts, especially the horses thing. Few realize that in the early days of the country, it was the best Infantrymen chosen to become Cavalrymen. The Infantry desired to have a horse. And who was the most feared group on any battlefield for thousands of years, the Cavalry. Infantry would do what they do best - close quarters, close with and destroy, but when things got bad or they needed to end it quickly - boom. Cavalry charge. Send in the shock troops to wipe out the enemy.

Sure, nowadays the Scouts is kind of lost. ISR has replaced the Scouts main mission of Recon and Surveil. But to say Scouts are pansies and never did anything is ignorance. As much as it is cliche and hard to hear, Iraq and Afghanistan was a war fought by a mix of Cavalry and Infantry tactics. Were the Infantry always walking? No. they drove and the MRAP/HMMWV is the new horse. Did the Scouts always ride, no they walked just as much. Both jobs got in firefights, closed with and destroyed.

And if the Infantry doesn't like the Scouts, why are the "premier" sections of any Infantry unit the "Recon" platoon? They want the scout job. (Though RRC is just a name). In a perfect war everyone would do their actual job, but many BCT CDRs are afraid to put Scouts out in a team of two with little to no support for a week at a time. Scouts would love if they'd let them sit in a hole for a week and observe, but the fight doesn't allow it, so they are used as another maneuver battalion. It's the higher ups who have forgotten what a great asset the Scout is - to find the enemy, tell the Infantry where it is, and watch them do what they do best, then watch what happens after the 11s leave.

Everyone has their place - it's why we have 200 some odd jobs in the Army. If all we needed was 11s, its all we'd make.

Please also keep in mind that an Infantryman is the most basic of soldier (not weak or anything just basic, the word literally means Child Soldier). Doctrine states that completing the 9 week BCT qualifies one as a Soldier - an Infantryman. 11s spend more time to refine and perfect their skills of closing with and destroying, while others attain specialties, such as med, recon, engineering, etc...
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