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my brother is 56M, current in AIT, and he wishes to reclass to different mos, the courses he said he doesn't like so as the MOS, he has now become recycle to a next new class because he has failed 3 tests so far. And now the drill sergeant said if you fail this cycle again u going to chapter out and with a dishonorable discharge. my brother just wants to switch different mos. He wants to still stay in the army. At this point does drill sergeant just scare him(want him to graduate) or he really means to do it (chapter him out). can an AIT soldier get a discharge like that? My brother said AIT Commander is going to speak to him on Monday. Anybody know the inside about AIT school. I through he just get reclass if he fails the test. what really can he do by this point. Any advice please help?
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He is purposely failing his classes and wasting the Army’s time and money along with his instructors time and efforts. Every test he “purposely” fails, his instructor has to take their personal time and time that could be spent with other students to help your brother. I think he should be separated. This is the Army. You cannot simply cry and refuse to work until you get your way.
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Facts!!!SFC Marc W.
SSG Paul Headlee
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Amen to that!
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Sgt Bob Buster Adcock
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Tell your brother to man up, be a man and a soldier!
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SSgt Michael Bowen
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First i agree with you This is the post i gave him .He can not get a dishonorable discharge . but he can be discharged . and at AIT i am guessing less then 180 days so it will be with Zero benefits and no right to call himself a vet . What he could have done is complete his training like an adult . and then after getting to his unit apply to get an MOS change . But now with his record of failing it would not likely be approved . The Army doesn't invest 10s of 1000s of dollars to train or retrain some one with that kind of failure record he screwed that pooch all himself .
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You have five posts about you and your brother reclassing. You have been told that it is needs of the Army in your brothers case. In your case, you can't reclass. Why do you keep posting on the same topic? Both of you enlisted of your own free will, so quit complaining and start putting your best foot forward.
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MSG Glen Miller
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He posts the same again and again until he gets the answer he likes which unfortunately,wasn’t your even though it was the right answer.
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If you fail your first MOS, you become needs of the Army. Someone in the S3 shop pulls an ATRRS TS screenshot. Most of the time there will be priority MOSs listed at the bottom that the Army needs to fill. At Fort Sam this goes into your reclass packet. The Soldier lists their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd choice of reclass MOS on this sheet. The Soldier can write down whatever they want, but if there is one MOS on that list that is particularly unfavorable, we encourage them to put at least one of the better option in their top 3 choices. More often than you might think, there are no MOSs listed on that ATRRS TS screenshot. My understanding is that ASVAB line scores, red/green color blind, OPAT score, civilian drivers license, and security clearance are the main factors. If that is the case, it means when their packets is submitted most likely there will be no reclass MOS available and the command is then REQUIRED to proceed with separating the Soldier. I have never seen a discharge worse than “General - Under Honorable Conditions” result from those proceedings. Your brother may try to re-enter service after 6 months, but it will be much more difficult and require a waiver if his DD214 has anything other than RE-1 listed for re-entry. Tell him to finish the course and reclass when his re-enlistment window opens.
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SFC Retention Operations Nco
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That is straight out of the MILPER message
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SSG Eddie Helmling
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that is the same thing I was told (in a group setting) 34years ago..... almost word for word ..... nice to know that some thing have not changed
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