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Cavalry Scouts seem to share a lot of related skills aside from specializing in reconnaissance. Back in time before Korean War I believe 19D MOS used to be part of 11 series, until someone decided that it better fits with Armor.

Nevertheless, we have 11Cs, who tend to do much less related work of actual infantry and more akin to artillery field, and then we have 19Ds, who do a lot of 11B work.
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Yes. They are in similar field of operations.
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No. Cavalry belongs with Armor.
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CSM Brigade Operations (S3) Sergeant Major
First off I am a little confused on your 11C comment. I was/am an 11C and I have done more Infantry shit than most Infantrymen, when I take a piss it comes out blue. I have carried more weight and walked just as far as any 11B in any of my units. I have cleared buildings/rooms with my mortar section/platoon. I have place indirect and direct fire on objectives from support by fire positions. I think your misconception of 11Cs is very skewed.

I will give you this, there can be a difference between a light mortarman and a mechanized/Stryker mortarman. This difference is also noticeable between the mechanized/armor and light Scouts. To answer your question I think the Cav should keep their own MOS if not for anything else, for tradition.
SPC Jamie Smith
SPC Jamie Smith
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Right on SMG. While I humped the bipod for the 81mm for about 10 of the 13 months I was in Vietnam, I also went on patrols, O.P.s, L.P.s, & everything else the 11bs BC dud
SPC Jamie Smith
SPC Jamie Smith
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As a proud 11C for 13+ months with 2/12 First Cavalry in Vietnam, I also did OPs LPs , patrols, search & destroy, etc.& also carried the 40 pound bipod for the 81 along with the rest of my gear . I chose to hump the M79 and a 1911 .45 instead of the M16 . At the time I weighed about 130 lbs. I probably bitched a lot at the time, but wouldn't trade it for anything.
SFC Platoon Sergeant
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11C's like it when you call them Artillerymen.
:)
SSG Chris Castillo
SSG Chris Castillo
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Mortars are hung. I’m fully erect. Hooah 1SG!
1SG(P) First Sergeant
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Only if they quit wearing those ridiculous hats.
SPC Kevin Kilch
SPC Kevin Kilch
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Nothing wrong with the hats. After all, the army does love tradition. That and those hats are part of a uniquely American uniform design. Prior to the mid-19th century, we were complete slaves to European military fashion.
SFC Ralph E Kelley
SFC Ralph E Kelley
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SFC (Join to see) - I think its spelt "Flair" with a little wavy salute.
CPT Larry Hudson
CPT Larry Hudson
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SPC Jamie Smith 3/5 cavalry D Troop first air cavalry authorized to wear silver belly stetson and yellow triangle neck tie in Vietnam thanks to Captain Ace Cozzalio and his badgering higher command. Salute Ace, we'll done.
CPT Larry Hudson
CPT Larry Hudson
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CPT Larry Hudson you can read about cozzalio'so heroic contributions to tracking scouting, cobra experiences by reading Rex Gooch book ACE
SGT Paul Casteel
As a former 11C in the 82nd, I have to say mortar teams do primarily Infantry work, with a little indirect fire in support of their Infantry mission. Cavalry Scouts primarily perform reconnaissance in support of mechanized units, whereas Infantry units have elements assigned to perorm that task for them. I think 19D is a pretty hardcore MOS, and I think it should be celebrated as it is, and not moved to the Infantry series.
SFC Platoon Sergeant
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the original post is a little wrong. it wasn't in the Korean War. 11D changed to 19D in the early 80s with the extremely costly invention of the Bradley Fighting Vehicle.

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