Posted on Oct 31, 2018
Madison Holloway
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Yeah, I know, you've all told me that I'm never going to get into any branch of the military with only one kidney. The Army has already disqualified me and now I'm in the middle of trying to enlist in the Air Force. People keep telling me that I have no chance of joining, but I'm making more progress than you've all expected. My recruiter has my medical papers and he knows all about my one kidney. And yet, he didn't turn me down and give me an automatic disqualification. He said I can go take the ASVAB, which I took today and scored a 94 on, and then he said that he'll send my scores down to be looked at so that I can be considered for MEPS.

So....when does this so-called "automatic disqualification" show up, because I ain't seeing it. I took the ASVAB, scored high on it, and now I'm being considered for MEPS. And what happens when my recruiter says I'm in the clear for MEPS? What happens when I pass the physical and MEPS lets me swear in? What happens when they notice that my one kidney doesn't impede me in any way? Chances are you all will still be saying "You're never gonna get in! You're disqualified!"

I honestly just typed this up because I like that I'm proving you guys wrong so far. I've made it farther than any of you have anticipated and I'm just the type of guy who likes to rub things in.
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I get the impression that if you do somehow manage get into the military, you will not make it through your first Enlistment.
The military is a small place. You asked for advice, they gave you the best advice based on reference and policy. You went out of your way to mock and spit in the face of the people who shared their experience and knowledge with you. Pettiness is a poor trait for a future leader.
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MAJ Critical Care Nurse
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Somebody should tell him a 94 on the ASVAB is not all that great.
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LTC P.A. Viersen
LTC P.A. Viersen
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Automatic Chapter 61 MMRB Med disqual. Why chase the unreal? Don't enlist, please.
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1SG Joe Messier
1SG Joe Messier
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Jack, I hope you are right because the alternative is the American taxpayer paying him every month for the rest of his life because he made it in. Once he is in the problem becomes the services issue, then the VA's issue when he can't do his job and blames the service for letting him in and aggravating the medical condition.
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CPL Deanna Green (Parkinson)
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Great that you'd like to enlist.
Unfortunately, the automatic disqualification occurred on, or before, April 28, 2010.
Department of Defense Instruction NUMBER 6130.03, April 28, 2010,
Incorporating Change 1, September 13, 2011, states:
2. MEDICAL STANDARDS. Throughout this enclosure, ICD, CPT and HCPCS codes are included with most medical conditions and procedures, usually parenthetically, to aid cross-referencing. Unless otherwise stipulated, the conditions listed in this enclosure are those that do NOT meet the standard by virtue of current diagnosis, or for which the candidate has a verified past medical history. The medical standards for appointment, enlistment, or induction into the Military Services are classified by the general systems described in sections 3-3031 of this enclosure.
16.h. Conditions associated with the kidneys, including:
(1) Current absence of one kidney, congenital (753.0) or acquired (V45.73) (CPT 50220-50236).
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1SG Steven Imerman
1SG Steven Imerman
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I was a drill '83 to '85. Ft. Leonard Wood.
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Brad Miller
Brad Miller
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SSG Dave Johnston - He was being sent to MEPS, passed the ASVAB.
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PO2 Bull Halsey
PO2 Bull Halsey
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1st Sarge, can you do a favor for an old vet and cite the location of kidney standard documents for era 1960 to 1970. I have a good friend who is struggling with serious medical consequences and the element of time for being accepted for enlistment in spite of only one kidney. The results at age 65 are not pretty, and the VA is complex and slow.
Advice for Mr. Holloway, be careful for that which you seek. Nothing comes without consequence over time. Prudence and humility are essentials for a long life and happiness that you may consider.
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PO1 Chad Alcock
PO1 Chad Alcock
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MCPO (Join to see) - Sometimes it's better off to let the COC tell the applicant no, especially when it has the opportunity to cause problems. This kid looks like he would be the type to cause problems (just my impression from his post). Having the COC say no just adds credence to the answer. Unfortunately I had one that I did exactly that. I sent her psyche records to headquarters for screening and they called me up and asked "Why the hell did you send these up?" I stated that I was not going to be the one to tell her no. She, of course, was denied for having suicidal tendencies, etc. She spoke to the local newspaper (of which she was an employee) and said that she couldn't join because she was a lesbian. They ran her interview with a larger article about the repeal of "Don't ask, Don't tell." All this happened about 3 months before the repeal took effect. Suffice it to say, she tried to join later with a different recruiter, and was denied again.
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Madison, your attitude sucks. If they let you enlist, then come back and thank all of the RallyPoint members that were trying to help you.
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HN Nhu Nguyen
HN Nhu Nguyen
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I hope for this person's sake, they will rethink their attitude if accepted into the military. Lives can and have been lost due to none other than pure arrogance and sour attitude.
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Sgt John Mizell
Sgt John Mizell
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If you are accepted, you put a lot of people at risk , if you were to ever be in combat.
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SPC Christopher Murano
SPC Christopher Murano
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With that attitude, you stand a very good chance of making it out with a BCD.
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SPC Christopher Murano
SPC Christopher Murano
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Sgt Mervyn Russell - It was during Basic in 1967, and there was one recruit who couldn't hit a target. You could see the strikes in the dirt or on the berm between targets. A few times he even hit someone else's target. Naturally, the DI questioned his intelligence, his parentage, his humanity. At one point, he turned and said, "Sergeant, what can you expect? I only have one eye." The DI chuckled and said, "I give you credit for the most ridiculous excuse I have ever heard." With that the recruit turned around, then turned back with a glass eye in his hand. The DI went white as a ghost and called for transportation. A 1/4 ton arrived, the recruit and DI got in. We never saw the recruit again.
I remember the eye exam. "Do you see the chart on that wall? Yes? 20/20"
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