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Good Afternoon all, new member so my apologies for any questions that may seem naïve. Currently on Active Duty Recall Orders at Navy personnel Command in Millington, TN. DD368 Conditional release is pending (I'm confident it will get approved; I work down the hall from the code who approves them). My recruiter is on leave right now so I don't want to bug her with questions either. I am curious what the selection rates are like? From my research, it seems that OCS is mainly an accessions pipeline for those that are already enlisted soldiers. Also, I was wondering if any prior Navy made the transition to the Army's officer corps? From my research, I saw that I would attend BCT before OCS if I am fortunate enough to be selected.

I am 30 years old and just hit my 8 year mark (5 AD and 3 Reserve). My fear is that my TIS might work against me. I do plan on serving for 20+ years regardless. I have perfect PFT scores and have quantifiable leadership experience highlighted in my yearly evals. I also have a B.A. in History (3.1) and an M.A. in Global Affairs (3.4). Played college basketball all four years.

Any insight on the best way to make myself competitive would be appreciated? My GT is a 118 (I saw 110 is the min) and ASVAB is an 82 (took it in 2012). I already did a commissioning physical from with the Navy and was cleared on my 2808 and 2807.

I'm just curious if anyone on the site has seen prior enlisted Navy guys successfully make this transition before? Also, I am just wondering if I would be competitive for a selection board? Any criticism is welcome, I have thick skin.
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Selection rates are unimportant. There's a specific number of accessions for that year. The best applicants are ranked and that's how many get in. The selection percentage is based on how many people apply, not how many are accepted
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Copy all. Thank you.
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CPT Jason Sierakowski
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It your stats are all true, you are competitive.... Very competitive.

I was prior enlisted Marine Corps for over 9 years as a Staff Sergeant. Interservice transfer was the hardest thing to get approved. If I recall, the first General Officer/Admiral is the CoC. It was because folks sit on it.... Just rediculous. I don't recall if it was needed to submit in your packet initally. But needed in order to cross over for obvious reasons. So if you know the guy that puts it in front of him, that's fantastic!

After submitting your packet Army MILPER messages get posted with the results of who is selected to attend OCS. Again, your packet is competitive. These are dudes and that are in service Army and all branches. About 6 months after your informed that you've been selected, you will ship to Fort Benning, GA. You'll go straight to OCS with the other prior service folks from different branches and in service Army folks. You'll get your full issue... Basically where the basic training new Soldiers are. From there, you'll be bused to OCS to improcess.

I remember being in your shoes... I always called my recruiter to check in with him. I never gave him problems because I took the process very seriously.... It's like anything else, if you want to be an office than demonstrate the desire. The only difference really is the jargon and organizational structure. As you progress, you will pick everything up quickly. There's no wonky transition course or anything.... You'll just put away the Navy uniform and put on Army OCPs!
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If your recruiter is on leave and you want to get your packet looked at at station level, call the station and ask to speak to Station Commander (it is the enlisted boss of the station). He/she will be able to answer your question. Unless your recruiter is returning soon that is. Your call.
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CPT Jason Sierakowski Also, Sir do you remember the timeline from when you turned in your application, boarded, received acceptance, shipped to BCT, shipped to OCS, and went BOLC? I know every board and every fiscal year things can change. However, I was just wondering a ballpark timeline would be that I can anticipate after my June 7-11 board?
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PO2 (Join to see) I most definitely remember me submitting my packet in the whole timeline! From me stepping into my recruiter's office in my Marine Corps uniform, and I thought I was crazy, it really took me about 2 weeks to submit the packet. I mean between my recruiter and me providing everything that was needed. I believe at the time that was the written essay, any supporting documentation. It really wasn't that crazy. The longest portion was actually waiting for the structured interview for the local board. And really I just had I'm a my Marine Corps dress blue uniform and acted like it was a promotion board. So after that when the board results released, and I was on the list, it took 6 months to ship to Fort Benning Georgia. Then it took me 3 months to class up because OCS at the time was backlogged. The order of merit to class up for active duty was an APFT. So the cutoff score was about a 280 my first time and then on the third attempt you could automatically class up if you were in HHC, which is headquarters headquarters company in the Army. Then OCS is 3 months. So now we're talking a full year after I was on the selection list for OCS. Right after that you'll PCS to your BOLC, and just depending on where your classes you could be sitting in BOLC as a snowbird if I recall for 1 or 2 months, and then however long your BOLC is. which if I'm not mistaken the average time at your school is approximately 9 months to 1 year. My branch is air defense our BOLC is approximately 9 months.

So the entire time from when the board results release, until you actually hit your unit. It'll probably be about a year and a half time frame. Just kind of plan for that and that is the wiggle room with PCS leave and things like that. This is pending everything goes according to you don't get injured, you don't get booted out OCS, simple things like that. Just shoot straight keep your nose to the grindstone, and remember what you're trying to achieve which is a commission.

Some other notes I saw that you are a yeoman? So I believe that that is the equivalent to AG branch in the Army, at OCS you have the opportunity to put in what's called a DA 4187 along with a packet to get your branch of choice. That means you would submit a packet in OCS and this would have letters of recommendation other different things that you would submit to big army and you would actually can get that branch. So when you go up to branch and I believe it's week six now at OCS, you'll actually be asked do you want to accept the AG branch? And then you can either accept it or deny it which believe it or not people do deny it.

I don't believe you're going to go to basic combat training which is BCT. There's absolutely no purpose for you to go to BCT. You already are in the service you already understand how to put a uniform on, you understand how to do basic things with rank structure. The hardest part is going to be your transition as a sailor to a soldier. And that means understanding the lingo how things are different but really it's all the same. Instead of short time you're talking about mobilization timelines. Things like that.

Again you going to want to take a look at the MILPER messages. And you can do that through HRC.army.mil. And you have CAC access so you can get those. And you can search the mill per for the latest OCS that came out. That actually explains what the packer requirements are and expectation management. It's good if you can get ahead of it instead of your recruiter. Just because you know your recruiters got like 15 to 20 other kids they are trying to figure out. There's also some OCS forums that you can look at as well. And they have the latest and greatest changes that have been happening throughout the process.

Lastly So I can finish blabbing, I do remember being exactly in your shoes. And I was very hesitant on the competitiveness of my profile. my recruiter was extremely confident and he said you will get selected. I just made sure that I had a strong file. I knew that nine years of being a Marine Corps staff sergeant was a positive and that means that I was everything from the platoon sergeant to a squad leader. All the combat deployments that I had. I knew and understood what I was trying to do. Sounds like you got the same profile as well except you're a lot smarter than I was with two degrees and maxing out PT tests and you played college basketball. I think you're in really good shape. Best of luck to you and if you got any questions you can search me out and ask me!
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CPT Jason Sierakowski - Copy All,

You definitely gave me a ton to think about. Very motivated for the board. My application is pretty much complete, I'm just waiting for my newest fitrep to come out because I'm pretty sure I'll be rated as the number one or two E-5 out of a group of 30 E-5's. Also waiting on a NAM and a FLOC from the base admiral since I recently won Junior Sailor of the Quarter. My deadline for the application is April 1 so I'm waiting hashing out a few extra things to make my package a little more competitive. Luckily my commissioning physical (2808 and 2807) was completed a couple months ago when I was still considering applying to Navy OCS.

Appreciate all of your insight. I'm definitely going to follow up with you closer to my June Board date. I also checked out HRC.army.mil and found a ton of good information.
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To give a round about number, I believe its currently sitting around 15%. Of course that all matters on how many apply compared to how many are needed.
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