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LTC John Shaw
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Many soldiers have temporary profiles they need to get fixed because if they don't the Army will force them out. The action is on the soldier and medical to have an plan to communicate with the first line supervisor. Mix your PFT routines within the unit exposing your soldiers to standard PT, yoga, cross fit
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MAJ Infantry Officer
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Sir, I hope you're doing well over there.
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CPT Mark Gonzalez
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Edited 8 y ago
So some fixes to this complex problem.
1. Force the P3 when appropriate or make the provider aware and allow them to do what is clinically appropriate. AR 40-501 lays out medical fitness standards. The regulation requires a P3 if a temporary extends beyond a year. The docs know this, but as medicine continues to become joint’ified other services may not. The commander has to talk to the provider. If the commander does nothing, it would not be uncommon for a Soldier to be on a temporary profile well in excess of a year. Also some Soldiers only get profiles during APFT season and the commanders have to catch this, not the docs. So engage and the P3 occurs where appropriate and that leads to the IDES.

2. You cannot attend PME with a temporary profile. Not attending your PME is failing to progress in your career. The 1SG initiates a bar to re-enlistment for failure to progress. They take into account the entire record as every case is different, but overall the Soldier is not making progress. Once the bar is initiated the Soldier may heal up or get a P2 and attend their PME. If this occurs, that is great as the Soldier is deployable and advancing in their career. A small percentage will be chaptered for not overcoming the bar, but most will end up in the IDES with a P3. They go in the IDES and will be medically separated as appropriate.

You cannot bar officers, so you have to rely upon option one. They too cannot attend their PME with a temporary profile and there is nothing wrong with telling them that. Not attending their PME will stall their career and they will be separated in time. However, it should never go that long and they would get a P3. If someone goes through the IDES and is retained you did your job. Their profile will be downgraded to a P2 or the P3 will have a "Y" code applied.

This issue is incredibly important, because if you ignore the issue it can destroy your unit from within and you will be left with a social welfare project.
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SPC Rory J. Mattheisen
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Holy crap, I was Airborne and we never reached 60% non deployable. There is something going really wrong in the Army today.
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Interestingly, I am in a rapid deployment unit and get a high number of Soldiers directly from AIT. About half come to us with profiles... Not sure how they get around leaving the schoolhouse like that, but it happens frequently.
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SPC Rory J. Mattheisen
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I just dont understand this, there were people at ait when I was there on their 3rd cycle because you could not graduate on profile. I knew things were going to get bad but I didnt think they would be like this, I am so gload I got out when I did.
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