Posted on Mar 10, 2019
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I just got here to ft lee as an 92y 4 weeks ago and my drills seargent Just told me my orders are to ft Campbell ky I’m from Louisville so that’s a big ups on me but he told me that they Will FORCE me to attend Air Assault School even if I deny . I really have no problem with going to Air assault but I’ve been through basic (19 weeks) I got recycled because of a dislocated shoulder and AIT (8 weeks) I just want some time to myself a little and get started on my online classes I understand it’s only 10 days but I want to go in the best shape mentally and physically so can someone let me know will I be forced against my will to do something I’m not comfortable with doing now?
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You will go. You won't go immediately. You will go the next time your BN hits white cycle after you get there. Or the next white cycle after that.
The school is a 0600 to about 1530 day, then you go home to your own barracks or house every day, because it is right down the street from whatever unit you get.
You will have the same amount of time to get to online classes during AASLT as you would on a normal day at your unit, possibly more time.
However, this is a good object lesson for you in how Army works.
You will have to do things in the Army when you feel like it is not the best possible time for you to do so.
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CPT Daniel Cox
CPT Daniel Cox
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SGM Jeff Mccloud; SSG Davis; PVT Jason Mchuntly - As I recall (and it has been more than a few years since I last served, not everyone on Fort Campbell is part of the 101st. Are those not part of the Division also expected to go to AASLT? With all the changes due to BRAC since I was in, I know a lot of bases that were formerly unit-centric now have a lot of non-Divisional assets.
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1LT William Clardy - Yes, and I agree, to a point. It stinks that text format doesn't translate sardonic humor better. That said, too often "needs of the Army" is used as an excuse to needlessly load subordinates with unnecessary stress or to introduce unnecessary chaos into the lives of servicemembers.
I've had plenty of occasions where a particular day (or week, month, or year) was just going to suck because a situation dictated that those were the conditions and nothing could be done about it (like I tell my wife, you KNOW you're in the Army when you find yourself in the Hindu Kush mountains, on the top of your hooch, cutting corrugated steel roofing with a pocket knife in the middle of an electrical storm).
I've also seen leaders (and been on the business end of leaders) who've made servicemembers go through lousy situations because it was easier to mindlessly croak "needs of the Army" rather than to go to leadership and make a case why a particular box didn't need checking at that particular time, or for that particular soldier, or under those particular circumstances. Frankly, it happens often enough that many of the finest soldiers I've ever met have decided to walk away from the Army and ETS when they were otherwise disposed to stay in, keep giving exemplary service and mentorship to junior enlisted, and go for retirement.
All I'm saying is that "needs of the Army" is a two-edged sword. If it's used sparingly and soldiers know that their leaders are in their corner and use "needs of the Army" only when they've exhausted all other reasonable courses of action, soldiers do pretty well. But any leader, NCO channel, or chain of command can only get away with using "needs of the Army" so many times before soldiers start being filled with resentment and replying "fuck this shit" when it's time to re-up. And in my experience, flinging "needs of the Army" at soldiers without a damned good reason is the number one preventable reason for soldiers to ETS rather than to keep being valuable resources to the Army.
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SSG Daniel Lynn
SSG Daniel Lynn
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You are being assigned to an Air Assault unit. Yes, you will go. Your command will determine when and you can always express your preference but you are in the ARMY and you go when and where they tell you regardless of your personal desires. Your 'preference' is not really a major consideration young soldier. Suck it up. Do the job you signed up for and move on. I will say my time at Ft. Campbell was short but the look on my new first sergeants face when I showed up and already HAD by AA qualification was priceless. So disappointed. Guess he took pride in sending folks to that school. Oh well, I was being medically discharged anyhow so either way, I was a no go for him.
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CPL Cord Nipper
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1LT William Clardy
As a private back in 1992 we figured up our pay as about $2 per hour.
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LTC Jason Mackay
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PVT (Join to see) your unit will not send you unless you can do the obstacle course, particularly the 30' rope climb on the tough one and the weaver and the 12 mile ruck March. They just won't. You may get 'encouraged', but there it is.

I would have given anything to have done AASLT and Pathfinder while at Campbell, but was injured training for said obstacle course, then deployed, then PCSed immediately.
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SGT Jmajik Jmann
SGT Jmajik Jmann
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Sir: You are on point and yes, it is a challenging course; just l;like Jump School was at Benning but it depends upon a soldiers motives and reasons. I volunteered for both AAST and Jump School partly because my dad was a 2 time Vietnam Vet--(1/75 RGR. RGMT) yet, I was with 2/325th INF. RGMT. (2nd BGDE BCT) 82nd ABN DIV. however, the training dynamics and qualification criteria have changed since I ETS'd in 1992 after Desert Storm, mainly because my Mother didn't want to be given another flag by a 4 star General, as was the case with my younger brother. Overall if I had it all to do again COL., I would without hesitation.
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SGT Jmajik Jmann
SGT Jmajik Jmann
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SGT Jmajik Jmann - Excuse my spelling for AASLT and the word like.
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SPC Joshua Bender
SPC Joshua Bender
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Yep, I missed out on it to, and like you I really regretted no going. It's a unique opportunity.
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Forced is such a negative word. Highly "encouraged", but not forced.
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LTC Stephen C.
LTC Stephen C.
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I was highly encouraged a number of times, SFC (Join to see), and I think, all in all, I’m the better for all the “encouragement”!
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CPL Steve Freeman
CPL Steve Freeman
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I'm more familiar with the term "voluntold". Freeman!!! You just volunteered! Wait, I what? Lol
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SSG Infantryman
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It would Behoove you to attend
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