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SrA Edward Vong
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The only way I see this is that there are some standards which some may feel like is unfair treatment. If the beard and turban does not interfere with the mission and image in any way. Why be mad bro?

It can be argued that other religions have more on their wear as opposed to Christianity which is the dominant religion in the US military. I was Muslim during the time that I have served. Our day of worship is on Fridays during the daytime as opposed to Christians which were on Sunday. My leadership was nice enough to accommodate my religious requirements as long as it did not adversely affect the mission. I was placed on the evening shift and felt this was fair.
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CPT Pedro Meza
CPT Pedro Meza
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Just to point out that both in Afghanistan and Iraq the beard was part of the uniform, for those in SF and Spec Ops and also for Air Force OSI, our bearded uniforms made it easier for us to operate out side the wire. Mr. Rumsfeld was opposed to the beard.
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SrA Edward Vong
SrA Edward Vong
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CPT Pedro Meza
I have always wondered about this. The beard was meant so that we were able to blend in with the local population. However if you will be wearing uniforms anyway, how does one blend in? Does SF and Spec Ops wear the local garb while operating?
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CPT Pedro Meza
CPT Pedro Meza
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SrA Edward Vong - We wore civilian attire, and also the regular uniform minus patches and names tags. For the most part villagers respected the beard and care less about the uniform. The beard is the uniform.
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PO2 Edward Shelton
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The only problem I can see with this is if he has to do CBR training, then it would be a problem trying to have a good seal with your mask. Other than that it is religious freedom.
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PO3 Steven Sherrill
PO3 Steven Sherrill
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CPT Pedro Meza - It figures that a politician 3,000 miles away couldn't understand.
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CPT Pedro Meza
CPT Pedro Meza
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PO2 Edward Shelton - We need to bring training to real life facts tied to our current conflicts. Dumb that leaders forgot the old saying "When in Rome do like the Romans"
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CPT Pedro Meza
CPT Pedro Meza
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PO3 Steven Sherrill - it figure that leaders 3,000 miles away can not think either specially when the intel is telling them. There was a lot of leadership failure, which bring me to the book "Why we lost"
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PFC Alexander Oliveira
PFC Alexander Oliveira
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if I were him id shave for the CBRN training then just grow it out again. but i don't think the beard i have on my face means to me as much as his does to him.
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Sgt Ivan Radusinovic
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I'm surprised at the amount of support for this Captain. I have nothing against him or his religion, but I thought we were a uniformed service, where rules and regulations applied for all, for a reason. Why are the rules being bent for this individual? What does this mean (looking into the future). Ridiculous.

Sure, if it doesn't affect mission readiness, bla bla... waste of time and breath, off course it shouldn't, but we don't know that for sure, do we? Riddle me this - why can't I have a beard then?

P.S. Operators, CI and alike don't count.
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SrA Paul Pfeil
SrA Paul Pfeil
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Because it's the new world order where we allow Muslim terrorists in our military. Just wait till all the Obama loved Syrians arrive.
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Capt Jeff S.
Capt Jeff S.
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Sikhs are not to be confused with Muslims. Two COMPLETELY different religions.
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Vance Frickey
Vance Frickey
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Whatever the Army's uniform requirements may be, they ought to be consistent and not depend on the religion of a particular service member. That breaches the Establishment clause of the First Amendment to the Constitution, which forbids just such "accommodations" as this if they are not applied without regard to religious creed.
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