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SGT Dave Tracy
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Specialist=Greatest rank ever. A full-bird Private. Runs the Army on the Down Low (Yeah I said it!).
Corporal=Worst rank ever. An NCO who hates life. Same paygrade as the "Sham Shield".





C'mon...deep down you know it's true! ;-)
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CPL Aloysius Grimaudo
CPL Aloysius Grimaudo
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Let me guess u were at relaxing Jackson..don't know where u been stationed but where I been specialist were no different than a fuzzy..
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SGT Dave Tracy
SGT Dave Tracy
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CPL Aloysius Grimaudo - Assuming you were replying to me instead of someone above, the question as I answered it (decidedly tongue-in-cheek) was to differentiate for this Marine between SPC and CPL ranks in the Army...in a, shall we say, not so formal a fashion. More than enough folks gave him the technically correct differentiation. It had nothing specific to do with rank at entry (not sure if that was where you were going with it, but it is true that OSUT, there is no difference with regard to rank among the recruits.) or real experiences post graduation.

As for myself, I was never at Jackson.
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SPC Johnny Velazquez, PhD
SPC Johnny Velazquez, PhD
2 y
Don't forget the SPC 4 mafia.
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CPL Joey Weaver Jr.
CPL Joey Weaver Jr.
2 y
never saw the difference. when I was in the Army and a spec/4. I considered myself no better than a private. Only when you received three stripes and called sarge, were you given true respect. Other than that you earned your respect from e-4 down by being the Alpha male. sorry but very true. At least until you got into combat, then everybody wanted to know what to do next, until they became hardened to blood and guts, and too many of our young men are becoming accustomed to it......time to end all of this or we will have a generation of PTSD, Men.
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SPC Jan Allbright, M.Sc., R.S.
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You can find a Corporal ...
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SSgt Travel Auditor
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I knew about the lateral promotion system for E-4s in the Army but I had the reasoning wrong. I thought they appointed them as CPL because they were on track for SGT.

I also knew you could go in as a SPC if you have a Bachelors. While it might not be for everyone, I can't help but ask why they wouldn't go in as a 2LT.
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SPC Steven Combs
SPC Steven Combs
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SSgt (Join to see) - You go in to Basic as an E-4, but after basic, you go to OCS to get your bar.
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CPL Jo Ann Hubbart
CPL Jo Ann Hubbart
4 y
In an effort to encourage those with degrees to enter service as an enlisted soldier rather than as an officer, branches (initially the Army) began to allow persons with degrees to disenroll from the GI bill and enter service under the Student Loan Repayment program if they came in as enlisted. For me, it made sense at the time because it paid off my student loan debt after 3 years of service (1/3 each year) on an 8 year contract (minimum of 3 active/remaining active or irr) . The payments are considered taxable income, but the tax liability of a lower enlisted soldier is minimal, so it didn't put in in a position of owing money at tax time. For one who isn't sure about remaining in sevice as a career or will be assigned to special duty assignments outside of their MOS because of those civilian degrees (often my case ), completing an initial enlistment debt free is very compelling.
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CW4 Craig Urban
CW4 Craig Urban
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Hitler was a corporal
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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The size of the ass-chewing when you screw up.

As near as I can tell, a CPL in the Army is like a "Senior Lance" in the USMC. All the Responsibilities, none of the Benefits.

To compare the USMC to the Army, they "automatically" (If I understand it correctly) promote to E4 (TIS/TIG) like we do to E3, and then they "statistically" (with Unit level Board) E5-E6 like we do Cpl & Sgt. This is a product of the Army being larger as near as I can tell. E7+ goes to Army level Board like our SSgt level Board.

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Cpl Clinton Britt
Cpl Clinton Britt
4 y
CPT Toby Forbes - most L/Cpls hold NCO billets way before ft hey get promoted. At least it was like that when I was serving
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SP5 Tom Carlson
SP5 Tom Carlson
4 y
when Stationed in Germany and Ft. Riley they had no Problmmaking a Spec 5- sgt. of guard one day.. and a guard two days later. with a spec 6 as SOG
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SSG Respiratory Specialist
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The Army doesn’t promote to Specialist. It’s an advancement. Soldiers are promoted to the NCO ranks. One caveat, a Specialist who laterals to Corporal is appointed not, promoted.
All advancement/appointment from Pv2-SSG recommendations are at the local level. Everything else (SFC-CSM) is DA select.
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Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
Sgt Aaron Kennedy, MS
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SSG (Join to see) - Does the Army still give out warrant certificates when pinning on new ranks?
A quick google search showed "Certificate of Promotion" (from both 1993 and 2018). I can't verify whether the 2018 was official or in-house as I couldn't get the form number off the bottom of it.
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