Posted on Jun 14, 2019
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This soldier keeps going to sick call and getting quarters but it’s at weird times, always complaining of stomach issues. Do I have to catch the soldier In the act or are there any other avenues that would support my case?
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Being sick is not against the UCMJ, but malingering is. Does it impact the mission enough to warrant your time spent on it? If so, proceed but tread lightly. No underhanded sneaky peaky or outright surveillance. You should be documenting it regularly but only facts. If he later is boarded for conduct or health it will be helpful. Partner with NCOIC or PSG and go from there. Get your ducks aligned first.
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SSgt Joseph Baptist - As a Wobbly One (WO1) I got pneumonia in the winter while at MEC-Pohang. Had an x-ray to find out why lungs were gurgling. One was 2/3 full of fluids. We were living in a hardback GP tent, but had a kerosene heater. The Corpsman put me on indefinite bed rest and huge antibiotic pills, plus lots of fluids. I only got out of my sleeping bag to make head calls for about 2 days. By the third day I was able to eat chow they brought from field mess, and was basically mended. So I can relate to being legitimately sick in the field. I agree with your suggestions.
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SSgt Joseph Baptist
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CWO3 (Join to see) - Side note - our Bde "solved" a problem with a large number of vehicles being deadlined and keeping people from going to the field by towing all the deadlined vehicles out to the field maintenance site, and requiring their crews to remain there until either their vehicle was repaired, or the field problem was over.
Didn't harm those whose vehicles were legitmately broken, but removed the "reward" for those who were faking.
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SSgt Joseph Baptist - They need to learn how to do their job in the field. It's a different ballgame when away from all the maintenance equipment in garrison. On ship is a different situation as well, but if you're a wrench turner you have to do it in support of the mission.
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MSgt Michael Smith
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SGT (Join to see) - By being a Doctor.
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You can bring your concerns up to your command, the commander has a open line of communication with the Unit PA/ legal team and can bring up any concern regarding a malingering soldier to them. You aren’t a medical professional (PA), and any accusation of malingering to a soldier is threading on thin ice.
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CMSgt Virgil Horsley
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Wondering what act would "catch" someone's complaint of stomach issues

Would just document the instances and let your chain know of concerns about the soldier not being able to perform duties.

Be very careful before accusing of anyone of malingering or faking sickness
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Agreed on the last part CMSgt. I had a soldier who had a similar issue. He had a stomach issue as well and was frequently at sick call. Some members of the platoon began to whisper loudly that he was “malingering”. Come to find out he had the beginnings of a stomach ulcer that was misdiagnosed. You can imagine how much trust other soldiers had in those who were gossiping after the news got out.
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Observe and support. I myself had stomach issues and as stated by SGM Horsley I was misdiagnosed as well for many months. I finally requested a different doctor because just putting me on quarters wasn’t solving my problem. Finally got assigned another doctor and found out my gallbladder needed to come out immediately. I suffered for months before finding out what the root cause was. So please don’t necessarily jump to conclusions because when you have stomach issues there really isn’t a set pattern and trust me, your stomach could care less about what the mission is. SGT (Join to see)
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SFC (Join to see) - I have had GI issues for years, rarely effecting my job performance. It can take years sometimes to figure out.
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Thank you and sorry you went through that. I understand that I’m not a doctor and my soldier has made this clear to me, very tactically which I give him credit for, but I had my concerns that it was happening to frequently and I have approached him and he swears up and down that he isn’t faking it, in some cases I want to believe him but idk to be honest.
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