Posted on Jul 24, 2015
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LCDR Sales & Proposals Manager Gas Turbine Products
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Oh yeah...here's one for the books:

About a year into my first DIVO tour, we were having trouble in the Division with folks coming in a few minutes late while in the Yard. We'd finished a long deployment and were in the middle of a tough maintenance period...no one was having a good day.

Little Ensign Gillespie was all bent out o'shape and laid down the law stating that the next person coming in late might as well bring a sea bag, 'cause they weren't leaving for a week...

...guess who was five minutes late the following day!

I walked into formation carrying my sea bag and told the boys I was as good as my word...spent the next week living onboard.

Didn't have any more tardiness issues though.
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PO3 Michael James
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LCDR Gillespie, Well done, Sir, leadership by example..
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PO1 Kerry French
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That probably earned you more respect than barking a thousand orders... I agree with all the above comments... that is very good leadership.
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PO2 Steven Erickson
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BZ, sir! THAT is how you get the young petty officers to follow!

Wish all my O-gangers on the boat had been like "young Ensign Gillespie". Would've been an honor to be in YOUR div, sir!
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Way to lead from the front, LCDR (Join to see) .
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MSG Preventive Medicine Specialist
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Put this Junior Sailor in charge of something important (but not too mission critical) to where regs and standards have to be followed and nothing can be allowed to be "forgotten." Give this person the proper training and information to do this job (so it doesnt come back to bite you). This way, when something gets FUBAR, then this Sailor is the one responsible. Hard lessons taught the hard way sometimes have to be done.
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PO1 Kerry French
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I like this answer better than mine... sorry... I go right to the punative.
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PO1 Kerry French - Oh, don't get me wrong. If I need to go punitive, I will. But, I have learned that there have been times where these hard lessons turned out for the best. Had a meat head of a Soldier that would do pretty much PO1 Simmons stated in his headline. Once this meathead got promoted to Specialist (E-4), I put him in charge of all kinds of things. Missions, convoys, briefings, etc. He learned damn hard and damn fast that his previous ways were not the best ways. Now, he has become one of my best NCO's
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GySgt John Olson - That is certainly one way. If he screws the pooch, the Gunner will chew his 4th point of contact (putting it nicely, of course)
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LCDR Sales & Proposals Manager Gas Turbine Products
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Ha! been there...done that, PO1!
I've always found that there are two types of personnel who don't "get it"...one feels like they're underutilized, the other isn't a good fit for the service.

With the first type, I found that handing them more responsibility (not "busy work", but real challenges) did the trick...let 'em see what the "big picture" is and how much of a part they really play. Get that young sailor to WANT to be a Chief (or O)...and realize it doesn't take as long as it seems when you're 19 or 20.

The second type has a real issue. Sometimes, and I stress "sometimes", they can be rescued by a combination of involved leadership from both the SEL and O side, and the direct impact of their shipmates getting them to play ball...most times, they're a mast or three away from Civ-Corps.

I've seen some real hard-cases turn into amazing sailors...and I've seen some zeros string along until the inevitable.

Bottom line, I've always felt that it's premature to diagnose someone as a "lost cause" till you've tried everything. One of the most amazing things I observed was the skill the Goat Locker had in motivating young sailors (even some wearing officer rank). I was fortunate enough to have some of the best Chiefs in the Navy (in my opinion)...my last was pretty much a "Dad" to all of us in the Department, and well respected from the Wardroom to the Crew's Berthing.
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PO3 Jody Wangen
PO3 Jody Wangen
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I guess I would have been your nightmare. I am the career airman sort. did 4 1/2 years. was never really interested in being in charge. passes my E-4 exam before I got out. have been working contract since 1989. in the same job I did in the navy. enjoy doing the low end of the job. my boss trusts me to work unsupervised and knows I will do the job well no matter what. and that I can make decisions when necessary. also get sent out DET a lot more than the others in my shop.
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LCDR Sales & Proposals Manager Gas Turbine Products
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PO3, I wouldn't consider a reliable, well trained and stable self-starter to be a "nightmare"...more a God-send! I think PO1 is referring to the (admittedly few) sailors of any rank who seem to have difficulty getting into the routine so to speak. Authority is something many people "think" they want until they have it...the truly valuable personnel arrive at their position within the organization by virtue of simply doing what they do best, consistently. Sounds like you're a master in your field.
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