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Navy Warns Sailors: "Do Not Protest National Anthem"
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Saw this on my FB page and don't know the reliability of the source.
You put on a uniform everyday, you took a sacrifice to sign a government contract that you would support and defend. You were taught though boot camp what UCMJ articles entail. You were also taught and read in your Recruit Handbooks that you are to salute the flag (where it maybe, and if not, where the music is playing) and if you aren't in uniform, you are to STOP and put yourself at attention when colors is played.
You can't just not salute in uniform. If you don't want to salute then why are you wearing the uniform that thousands have fought, died and still continue to serve? You're not only disgracing the country that you represent, but you also discredit the branch you are serving and disgracing yourself as an American.
Leave the social media ruckus to those who have nothing else better to do with their lives. Stand up and support your branch of service, your country and yourself.
You put on a uniform everyday, you took a sacrifice to sign a government contract that you would support and defend. You were taught though boot camp what UCMJ articles entail. You were also taught and read in your Recruit Handbooks that you are to salute the flag (where it maybe, and if not, where the music is playing) and if you aren't in uniform, you are to STOP and put yourself at attention when colors is played.
You can't just not salute in uniform. If you don't want to salute then why are you wearing the uniform that thousands have fought, died and still continue to serve? You're not only disgracing the country that you represent, but you also discredit the branch you are serving and disgracing yourself as an American.
Leave the social media ruckus to those who have nothing else better to do with their lives. Stand up and support your branch of service, your country and yourself.
Navy Warns Sailors: "Do Not Protest National Anthem"
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It's valid. Navy Times covered it as well. Anyone in the military, in uniform or not, is to stop and render honors when the National Anthem is played. While in uniform a smart salute will be rendered; while uncovered or out of uniform, Sailors will stop and stand at attention facing the ensign or the music. Regarding both female Sailors who decided that their personal opinions and belief supersede the requirements the Navy has put forth, they are lucky they were not discharged. What I can tell you, however is that both of these Sailors are going to have a long road ahead of them.
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PO1 Joseph Glennon
PO3 Jorge Ramos - You said, "On the other hand the anthem is not fully sang so not all know the true meaning of the anthem. The anthem is not about freedom and liberty is was about the slaves that were fighting, but thats another topic"
Your instructors were incorrect. The third verse is:
"And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave."
Rather than to take the time to write the correction to your misinformation, myself, I'll copy an paste what is said *here* (http://www.american-historama.org/1801-1828-evolution/star-spangled-banner-lyrics.htm) about it:
"Meaning of Star Spangled Banner Lyrics Verse 3
Francis Scott Key describes the British as arrogant and boastful in the lyrics 'that band who so vauntingly swore'
He is venting his anger at the British with the "foul footsteps' pollution" lyrics inferring that the British poisoned the ground on which they walked
But the poison and corruption had been washed away by the blood of the British
The Star Spangled Banner lyrics "the hireling " refers to the British use of Mercenaries (German Hessians) in the American War of Independence
The Star Spangled Banner lyrics "...and slave" is a direct reference to the British practice of Impressment (kidnapping American seamen and forcing them into service on British man-of war ships). This was a Important cause of the War of 1812
Francis Scott Key then describes the Star Spangled Banner as a symbol of triumph over all adversity."
The parts that are mischaracterized currently are explained - again - as:
"The Star Spangled Banner lyrics "the hireling " refers to the British use of Mercenaries (German Hessians) in the American War of Independence
The Star Spangled Banner lyrics "...and slave" is a direct reference to the British practice of Impressment (kidnapping American seamen and forcing them into service on British man-of war ships). This was a Important cause of the War of 1812."
Don't believe what you hear, even if you think it sounds right... do some research.
Your instructors were incorrect. The third verse is:
"And where is that band who so vauntingly swore,
That the havoc of war and the battle's confusion
A home and a Country should leave us no more?
Their blood has wash'd out their foul footstep's pollution.
No refuge could save the hireling and slave
From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave,
And the star-spangled banner in triumph doth wave
O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave."
Rather than to take the time to write the correction to your misinformation, myself, I'll copy an paste what is said *here* (http://www.american-historama.org/1801-1828-evolution/star-spangled-banner-lyrics.htm) about it:
"Meaning of Star Spangled Banner Lyrics Verse 3
Francis Scott Key describes the British as arrogant and boastful in the lyrics 'that band who so vauntingly swore'
He is venting his anger at the British with the "foul footsteps' pollution" lyrics inferring that the British poisoned the ground on which they walked
But the poison and corruption had been washed away by the blood of the British
The Star Spangled Banner lyrics "the hireling " refers to the British use of Mercenaries (German Hessians) in the American War of Independence
The Star Spangled Banner lyrics "...and slave" is a direct reference to the British practice of Impressment (kidnapping American seamen and forcing them into service on British man-of war ships). This was a Important cause of the War of 1812
Francis Scott Key then describes the Star Spangled Banner as a symbol of triumph over all adversity."
The parts that are mischaracterized currently are explained - again - as:
"The Star Spangled Banner lyrics "the hireling " refers to the British use of Mercenaries (German Hessians) in the American War of Independence
The Star Spangled Banner lyrics "...and slave" is a direct reference to the British practice of Impressment (kidnapping American seamen and forcing them into service on British man-of war ships). This was a Important cause of the War of 1812."
Don't believe what you hear, even if you think it sounds right... do some research.
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PO2 Joseph Fast
PO2 Nick Burke - That is actually much more reasonable. She is dumb as fuck, it's a harsh penalty for low IQ idiocy, but very easy to recover from. In the end they learn their lesson even though life is rough for a couple months. It's still not what I would do, but I can respect that decision if there is a problem in the command that needs fixed.
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PO1 Sean Reynolds
PO2 Joseph Fast - We'll that depends too on how many other counciling sheets were written on other issues too, but it was a huge embarrassment to the DON with all the publicity
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If my Navy does not act accordingly, it will be an insult to all who have served and are serving now. The uniform code of military justice does not change.
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PO1 Leo Scott
No, the UCMJ does not change but it is a lot different from and easier than the "Rocks and Shoals" was. No, I never served under the RandS but only missed by a couple of months and the DI's were having a hard time making the change. It has been changed lately to allow a vet or service man to salute, uncovered, the Flag.
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Perhaps, these black sailors who willfully disobey orders on colors expect that in the end, their punishments will be overturned by our black CINC. Sorry, for appearing racist, but I'm merely expressing my opinion, I mean, if they can so why couldn't I?
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