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I never knew all these years there is a woman who received the MOH. Now that I do, why aren't there more? Is there a MOS, race, must be male, either Army or Marine Corps or even some other weird and obscure requirement for a woman to be honored the same way men are? Is that grunt blasting away in the heat of battle more of a warrior than the surgeon or nurse, OR even combat medic who has to spend all night by your side patching you up? This is not a slight against the infantry at all. I'm asking why are there not more female MOH recipients, and what is the criteria that has be be met? SFC Smith got his from engaging the enemy while taking fire that would take his own life. SFC Class Alwyn Cashe was denied his even though he repeatedly ran into a burning vehicle to save others while under fire and ON fire. A Marine who fell on a grenade in his truck saving everyone in it, was denied it, but we have two from the same firefight? Why are we allowing politics (if they are), decide who is fit for it and who isn't? The Woman's Memorial at Arlington is facing being shut down...can anyone imagine the shitstorm if it was Lee house that was about to be shut down? If you feel the need to reply, be informative, and objective. I don't care about who got it, their branch, or MOS, but why are there no women in the Hall of Hero's, except her?
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Military History
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Medal of Honor
Posted 8 y ago
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Specificguidnace for every medal- if he citation is not written correctly it can cost the person. MOH is very specific and tied to certain situations. Not that I like using Wiki, this is what it takes:
Public Law 88-77, July 25, 1963: The requirements for the Medal of Honor were standardized among all the services, requiring that a recipient had "distinguished himself conspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty."[85] Thus, the act removed the loophole allowing non-combat awards to Navy personnel. The act also clarified that the act of valor must occur during one of three circumstances:[86]
While engaged in action against an enemy of the United States
While engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force.
While serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an armed conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party.[87][88]
Again would have to review the citation package- not written well it will not get awarded for a deserving act.
Public Law 88-77, July 25, 1963: The requirements for the Medal of Honor were standardized among all the services, requiring that a recipient had "distinguished himself conspicuously by gallantry and intrepidity at the risk of his life above and beyond the call of duty."[85] Thus, the act removed the loophole allowing non-combat awards to Navy personnel. The act also clarified that the act of valor must occur during one of three circumstances:[86]
While engaged in action against an enemy of the United States
While engaged in military operations involving conflict with an opposing foreign force.
While serving with friendly foreign forces engaged in an armed conflict against an opposing armed force in which the United States is not a belligerent party.[87][88]
Again would have to review the citation package- not written well it will not get awarded for a deserving act.
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SSG Warren Swan
Sir great points. But again, When I came in, if you got the MOH, you were already dead. LTG Foley was the CG of MDW, and he was I believe the ONLY serving Soldier Army wide who was a recipient. In a war where there is no front lines anymore, where more than likley the person who is busting ass to save you, has saved 20 men before you, and wouldn't stop until the mission...HER mission to see to it those in her charge are either taken care of, or are being prepped to move to GE for further help, or God forbid, processing for burial. Many of the citations say the same thing, just change the name, and they would read like a AAM would. "Saved the lives of 20 men while under intense enemy fire". Willingly exposed himself to small arms fire to save the lives of X amount of Soldiers or civilians". "Was in a forward deployed location with limited resources and firepower successfully beat back a superior force, before succumbing to injuries gotten from that fight". Sir I'm NOT trying to take a damn thing from those who have it. Brave men all. But in 241 years of the Army, only ONE woman, and that's only because she refused to give it back and dressed like a man? I'm extremely proud of my Army. Been through a lot together. But we need to be better in how awards are done, and what constitutes what. A butter bar who never left the wire, but ran a TOC for 60 days before redeployment gets a BS? Is that fair and in accordance with our values? We're "all" supposed to be warriors, why aren't we treated equally the same all the time?
BTW the LT thing was only an example.
BTW the LT thing was only an example.
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Fun story, the powers that be actually stripped her of the medal at some point. It was a hell of a fight to get it back.
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SSG Warren Swan
I really need to learn how to explain my points better. I think my intent was lost the second I put my hand on the keyboard.
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SSG Jessica Bautista
SSG Warren Swan - Maybe, but I would have still wrote this comment instead. It's interesting that the only woman to be awarded the MOH had to fight so hard to keep it.
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SSG Robert Webster
SSG Jessica Bautista - No Comment. It is also interesting that she was not the only one who it was taken away from. I would suggest that you read about the Army Medal of Honor Review Board, that revoked 911 MOHs.
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SSG Jessica Bautista
SSG Robert Webster - understood, still the only woman, and it was questionable at best.
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