White Supremacists Beat Black Man With Poles in Charlottesville, Va., Parking Garage

On our worst day, America is far more civilized than most countries across the world. Humans used to wipe out entire civilizations a few hundred years ago. Justice will prevail, but I would not go to the center of Baltimore during the riots. Note I would not go to Virginia this week. I know when we are young, we go push the envelope.

CPT (Join to see) - I lived in Baltimore during the riots. And I slept in a cast iron bath tub at night. Even thought everyone know of my belief the there only one race...human, during a riot, people are blinded by hate. And I doubt the Pope would have been safe in Baltimore.

CPT (Join to see) - We Americans wiped out entire Civilizations not that long ago

SPC Kevin Ford
The neo-Nazis despite the name have no connection at all with the Nazis from Germany. Most if not
all weren't born before or during WW2. That is the same for those who were there to support the Confederate Statutes, no one there was born during or before the Confederate war. Despite the reputation the KKK has, again, most if not all current members were not alive or involved with the KKK when all of those activities took place. It is easy to condemn these groups, I personally don't know why anyone would want to be part of them. At the same time, I find groups like ANTIFA, BLM, World's People Party, NBPP, etc equally repugnant because they accomplish their goals with violence and intimidation. The article about Boston states the protest was for free speech which is a Constitutional right. Approx 2 dozen people showed up to give a speech. Approx 20,000 showed up to deny them this right despite the fact that there were no indications that any supremacist groups were involved. The free speech people were attacked. The police were attacked. Trying to make groups like ANTIFA appear to be benign is disingenuous. https://www.theblaze.com/news/2017/08/16/black-gop-student-antifa-thugs-choked-grabbed-pushed-me-out-of-vigil-for-charlottesville-victim/
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/is-melbourne-too-dangerous-for-conservatives-behind-the-leftwing-antifa-movement-that-attacked-andrew-bolt-20170608-gwnb6h.html
http://www.lifezette.com/polizette/no-pause-left-wing-intimidation-post-alexandria/

Once again you are trying to make a moral equivelence between people self identifying with groups that's purpose is racial supremacy and have a history of mass muder and genocide and people self identifying with groups who's purpose is anti those groups just mentioned and anti being killed by the police and according to your links at worst have a history of getting into fights.

SPC Kevin Ford
You either don't seem to understand or you are being obtuse. It doesn't matter what someone identifies with, it matters what they have done. We live in the USA where an individual is responsible for their own actions, not a parents, relatives, or a group they belong to. Particularly a group that has not existed in 72 years. The point has always been accountability for anyone who has committed a crime or condemnation for any group whose members are committing crimes. Members of ANTIFA have committed many acts of violence and property damage in the past year or two. BLM protests have devolved into riots causing severe injuries and massive property damage. I wouldn't be surprised to hear that the Federal DOJ will propose filing RICO acts against members and leaders in the future.
Finally, to make a simple point, it doesn't matter to the average citizen if they are robbed by a veteran criminal or a novice, the fact that they were robbed is all that matters. Violence and threats by the right or left have the same effect.

@joseph cristofaro It absolutely does matter what groups one identifies with. If someone identifies as a member of NAMBLA, we probably don't want them teaching our children. Identifying with a particular group is an action.

Just to be clear on your position. If we come across someone who identifies with and says they are a member of ISIS but haven't killed anyone, that's OK?

Once again, your moral equivelence between identifying with a group that has been involved in some civil unrest and groups involved with genocide and terrorism like the Nazi and KKK doesn't have a very solid moral foundation.

Cpl Thomas Kifer So... Are we really going to pretend this wasn't about racism? And conveniently gloss over the fact that a woman was MURDERED? That whole "one human race" thing is cute on a normal day, but this is about white supremacists. No one else. If you're having a tough time examining it as its own individual issue, then you're making excuses for it.

The racism card is being thrown constatntly at the right, why isn't it being thrown at the left as well? It is true that these right side racist groups came there for a protest and had a permit for it, it is being overlooked that the left side racist groups showed up as well with weapons and fought them. In fact there would have been no fights if the left had not came there. Racism is bad regardless of who does it or why, but those who refuse to at least acknowledge that it is there on both sides is complicit as well.

First you slam him for saying stupid things while tweeting... so when Trump avoids tweeting because he doesn't want to say the wrong thing and fuel the fire on this racially charged issue, you whine about that. If Trump were to find the cure for cancer, he would get blamed for causing cancer so that he could cure it.

SSG Jessica Bautista
The problem at the time and even today is a jump to conclusion. We know there was a protest with hate groups on both sides, we know the hate groups on both sides included those who wore hoods or masks to conceal their identity, we know both groups brought weapons and attacked the other, we know an individual drove his car into a group killing a white female and injuring others. Almost everything else that has been printed to date is assumption. The police have not released a motive. They have charged James Fields with murder and 10 charges related to serious injuries. They have not determined that hate or terrorism is a factor at this time. I do not defend or support extremism on either side, I don't tolerate hate either, I do support the truth regardless of the consequences. The truth that we know at this time is James Fields was reported to be violent when he was younger, not racist. He was interested in Nazi Germany during High School, but no one has published anything showing he was affiliated with a Supremacist group. The only connection so far was he was standing with Vanguard America at the protest holding one of their shields. Vanguard said they gave it out freely to everyone and Fields was not a member. Prior to Fields driving into the crowd, there were 2 large groups of counterprotesters walking in the road blocking traffic. People reported vehicles blowing their horns at the crowd presumably to get them to move. A video shows someone striking Fields vehicle with a bat about the same time he accelerated. This appears to me to be a road rage incident, not race or hate. To be race, he would have had to target a particular race, that isn't what happened here.