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LTC David Brown
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This study indicates children raised in religious homes are mentally and physically healthier as adults. So I guess the choice is kinder gentler children who are crazy and live less healthy lives? https://relevantmagazine.com/life5/study-children-raised-in-homes-practicing-religion-have-better-physical-and-mental-health-in-the-future/
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There have been tons of studies done. I invite you to another good read. You will actually find some stuff in here you will like I think.
https://secularpolicyinstitute.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Zuckerman_on_Atheism.pdf
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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It's an interesting read. The problem (in my opinion) with such studies is they start with a flawed premise: that "empathy" and "kindness" are defined as being "non-judgemental". Judgement comes in many forms; we judge each other by academic, professional, and financial success. We judge each other by physical appearance, athletic ability, and competence. Religious ideologies add in an additional category of "judgement"...morality as defined by a theological doctrine. Yes, absolutely, children raised in (and remaining adherent to) certain faith communities will "judge" certain behaviors as "sinful"; the most observable being sexuality, and gender-based behaviors. I presume this is where the article gathers it's data.

However, viewing homosexuality, transgender identity, premarital/extramarital sex, or even divorce as "sinful" doesn't by necessity mean that one views those engaging in those activities without empathy. Admittedly, it is an all-too often the case that self-righteousness finds its way into our ranks...Christ and the Apostles spoke on this often. Still, the notion that one can "judge" another's behavior as "unacceptable"...and yet remain empathetic, kind, even supportive, is not without it's precedence.

I regard these behaviors as morally "sinful", and yet this hasn't prevented me from working with, and even forming strong relationships with "sinful" people. For me, "sin" is a condition created by separation from God; all humans are born into in, and each of us capable of all of it. If what I believe is true, redemption is the way to restore that connection to God, and only a willing, accepting soul can find it. I'm certainly not expecting to inspire that "willingness" and "acceptance" by castigating someone else for behaviors they deem not only acceptable...but a matter of civil "right". Rather, I hope that being honest about my own redemption journey (from no less sinful behaviors)...extending the example given by Christ, and being capable of showing the very empathy we're discussing, they will see for themselves there is a better path to walk.
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MSG Stan Hutchison LCDR Joshua Gillespie I have reported many schools to the freedom from religion foundation. School sponsored prayer in a public facility is a no-no and they might need to be reminded of that.
https://ffrf.org/outreach/item/14029-prayer-in-public-school
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie
LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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Well, I realize that from your perspective...it's "proselytizing", and you're no more thrilled about that, as I would be if my child were made to perform a pagan ritual before class...still, I think there's a "common sense" angle that's being missed here, but I won't attempt a futile argument. What I will say is this: I believe the 1st Amendment is clear; Government can not make a law prohibiting the free exercise of a faith...which, to my mind, includes public prayer. How we rectify that with "no law respecting" depends entirely on whether one thinks "respecting" means the same as "regarding" (I believe it does)... in which case, it may be presumed that the writers of the Constitution sincerely believed we have enough maturity, sense, and intelligence to work it out without government involvement.
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MSG Stan Hutchison
MSG Stan Hutchison
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie - I'm sorry. I should have been more concise in my post. This was a public school, the only one in the county. A very small school (high school graduating class: 12 students, my granddaughter's class of graduating 8th graders; 9 students. This in a county of 1006 people.)
What bothered me is it is accepted policy and it felt that we had no choice but to go along. It just bothers me when it was evident they held the ceremony in a building other than on school grounds to avoid the federal ban on such events. But that is what one gets living in the middle of "Red" country.
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LCDR Joshua Gillespie
LCDR Joshua Gillespie
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MSG Hutchinson-Thank you for the added context. I can understand your point, but to my mind, this is why the less government "touches" matters of faith... the better. It sounds like those involved are very "pro-religion"; I'm not an attorney, nor do I care to theorize on the legality of the situation... but I think it's safe to say that NOT having a religious element to the ceremony would've caused much more"offense" than having it. Similarly, I couldn't expect to attend an event of the local Rationalist Society, and have it opened with prayer, nor would I demand such. Ultimately (and respectfully), I think freedom includes freedom of conscience.. and we have to give each other the space for our principles, the better to avoid conflicts that cannot be resolved to either "side's" total satisfaction.
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1st Lt Padre Dave Poedel
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Very strange study that is more bias than light. Amorphous concepts of behavior tailor made to comparing bombers to tanks.
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