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PO1 H Gene Lawrence
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It will be very interesting to see the conclusion.
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Yes - that is what I am waiting on also. No judgement as *I* certainly do not have all the facts. The systems gears need to churn and at the end we may have an answer...
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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OK.OK.OK everyone...we are arguing over what one side says to the other and facts or lack thereof all
around...What I wish we would do is just let the process run...it is there for a reason...Biden or Trump we ill find out in the bitter end. Let's just let the process run and end the end at least we can say we followed and then we can debate what we THINK versus what LEGALLY happened. Until then we DO NOT have a President Elect by legal standards. We cannot base that on what MSM puts out and says. Biden may be it and by all indications he is but lets let the process run its course.

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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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SGT (Join to see) - MSM is already calling him Pres Elect...by law he is not.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth Biden won the election which makes him the president elect. Its a rather plain and simple concept.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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SGT (Join to see) - He has not won the election until the Electoral College votes...that's the process...I agree he will probably be the next president but it isn't official until the electoral college has voted. Read the Constitution for a legal plain and simple concept!!!

Constitution of United States of America 1789 (rev. 1992)

Amendment XII
The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;-The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;-The person having the greatest Number of votes for President, shall be the President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed; and if no person have such majority, then from the persons having the highest numbers not exceeding three on the list of those voted for as President, the House of Representatives shall choose immediately, by ballot, the President. But in choosing the President, the votes shall be taken by states, the representation from each state having one vote; a quorum for this purpose shall consist of a member or members from two-thirds of the states, and a majority of all the states shall be necessary to a choice. And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President-The person having the greatest number of votes as Vice-President, shall be the Vice-President, if such number be a majority of the whole number of Electors appointed, and if no person have a majority, then from the two highest numbers on the list, the Senate shall choose the Vice-President; a quorum for the purpose shall consist of two-thirds of the whole number of Senators, and a majority of the whole number shall be necessary to a choice. But no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of President shall be eligible to that of Vice-President of the United States.
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PO1 H Gene Lawrence
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SGT (Join to see) - the media was calling for Biden based on 1% of votes in, in some states. That is what put me off.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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I feel there was fraud but I believe they learned form the last election and covered their tracks so much that we will never uncover the unvarnished truth.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - Well my mother and father in law got two each...then their names were on the rolls at the polls...so di three of our family friends and their spouses. Because of their integrity they didn't fill the ones out they got in the mail. That hit close to home. My daughter is a registered voter in AL...but when I was voting in our district her name was on the rolls here in MS still...she could have voted in AL then drove the 1.5 hours and voted again if she wanted too...people say that doesn't happen but I have personally witnessed it.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth So???? Are you implying that over 5 million people did something like that? If so that would be the massive voter fraud that every election official and court have already investigated and determined did not happen. Like it or not sometimes one just has to admit they were defeated.
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen - NOPE...and if it were to come to be investigated it wouldn't change the outcome of this election IMHO...Trump has lost and I have accepted that the results won't change...HOWEVER, it needs to be investigated to put fixes in place to repair the process...too many questions on both sides from he previous election and this one about interference and voter fraud...Dems claimed it in 2016 and now Republicans are claiming it...the ones that wins says there is no issue or fraud...one is an anomaly...two is a trend! It needs to be investigated because, maybe not at the numbers you quoted, it is happening and it needs to be fixed...and every vote should be recorded properly, one man one vote!!! What that fix is...I don't know but we have to have election reform.
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
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Lt Col Scott Shuttleworth Well actually Trump claimed it in 2016 as well and set up an investigation that found absolutely nothing. I totally agree that changes need to come in the voting process, but as we have seen this year that is totally up to each state. My takeaway from this year is that there should be some legislation that says the voting process should be frozen at some point before an election, say six months. That firms up the rules and eliminates all the silly court challenges we've seen this cycle.
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