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Bradley-Morris :: Delivering Military-Experienced Talent to America's Top Companies
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Bradley-Morris, Inc.
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Bradley-Morris... What can I say, they do assist people in finding some work. However, they classify you as your MOS/AOC. No matter how much work you've done (i.e. BS, MBA, PhD) they will throw you in the classification based on Enlisted or Officer.
This company will not stray from this quite retarded (yes antiquated and slow) formula for "helping" (it's paid for) people get a job. I was encouraged starkly to leave my education out of the equation or else I was not going to get a job. Those jobs I was presented to were lower laborious dirty jobs. If I left my education in I was presented to jobs that were opposed to such. Things like maintenance in a factory and on the road repair of printers. It didn't matter if you were bounced out of the military with a degree from clown college, if you made it to 2nd LT you were in the professional club for Bradley-Morris. After a couple months of being burnt up in a 12 hour a day factory job crawling over greasy hot rollers and breathing in plastic dust I was spent. That factory found out I was more experienced and educated than my manager's manager and they couldn't find a door fast enough. Some might snark that I speak about this from a tainted perspective and while experience does play into my point of view I will iterate the crisp disparity between O and E.
I applied for jobs with B-M that I was well within the qualifications for, and was turned away from even being able to interview. After driving several hours to their hiring event and traveling for a cumulative set of days to other interviews it was clear that as any potential employee will be pigeon holed through here.
There is no reasonable or logical explanation for this bias, and it is a damn slap in the face to not only myself but any of the men and women that have served and then worked their collective butts off to get educated and experienced to make a better living. In this light, Bradley-Morris, you have failed us, all veterans and those that continue to serve. It is head-hunters like you that do a disservice to our community and contribute to the statistic of over 200% unemployment in the veteran/servicemen community compared to civilian population.
This company will not stray from this quite retarded (yes antiquated and slow) formula for "helping" (it's paid for) people get a job. I was encouraged starkly to leave my education out of the equation or else I was not going to get a job. Those jobs I was presented to were lower laborious dirty jobs. If I left my education in I was presented to jobs that were opposed to such. Things like maintenance in a factory and on the road repair of printers. It didn't matter if you were bounced out of the military with a degree from clown college, if you made it to 2nd LT you were in the professional club for Bradley-Morris. After a couple months of being burnt up in a 12 hour a day factory job crawling over greasy hot rollers and breathing in plastic dust I was spent. That factory found out I was more experienced and educated than my manager's manager and they couldn't find a door fast enough. Some might snark that I speak about this from a tainted perspective and while experience does play into my point of view I will iterate the crisp disparity between O and E.
I applied for jobs with B-M that I was well within the qualifications for, and was turned away from even being able to interview. After driving several hours to their hiring event and traveling for a cumulative set of days to other interviews it was clear that as any potential employee will be pigeon holed through here.
There is no reasonable or logical explanation for this bias, and it is a damn slap in the face to not only myself but any of the men and women that have served and then worked their collective butts off to get educated and experienced to make a better living. In this light, Bradley-Morris, you have failed us, all veterans and those that continue to serve. It is head-hunters like you that do a disservice to our community and contribute to the statistic of over 200% unemployment in the veteran/servicemen community compared to civilian population.
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CPT Michael Arsenault
Shaun,
Sorry to hear that the opportunities you were provided with from our firm did not meet your expectations. Bradley-Morris, Inc. has placed tens of thousands of military professionals in our 25 year history and more than half of those helped were NCOs and enlisted men & women. Although, rank may be a factor based on client specifications in certain roles, any kind of military experience or education is celebrated by our clients and our firm.
It’s unfortunate that your perception of our company is not more positive. It is an honor for us to serve the veteran community with as many nationwide career options as possible. Our services are no cost/no obligation to candidates and we encourage service members to utilize firms like Bradley-Morris as one part of an overall career search plan.
Sorry to hear that the opportunities you were provided with from our firm did not meet your expectations. Bradley-Morris, Inc. has placed tens of thousands of military professionals in our 25 year history and more than half of those helped were NCOs and enlisted men & women. Although, rank may be a factor based on client specifications in certain roles, any kind of military experience or education is celebrated by our clients and our firm.
It’s unfortunate that your perception of our company is not more positive. It is an honor for us to serve the veteran community with as many nationwide career options as possible. Our services are no cost/no obligation to candidates and we encourage service members to utilize firms like Bradley-Morris as one part of an overall career search plan.
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CPT Michael Arsenault - well said. I suppose in my experiences and loss of tens of thousands of dollars by talking a job your firm located I have become less than worried about being politically correct.
You affirmed that you direct hopeful employment seekers into slots based upon their ranks. Again I find this woefully unjust and a disservice to those that have worked hard to change their stars.
I will plainly state that you do help vets get a job. Because unemployment for us folks that serve is 200%the civilian rate we need work desperately a lot of times. You service does function to stick a peg in a hole, so to say, whether it be cognizant of being round or square I don't know.
I have sent lots of service members to BM. Many of them come back with stories of "it just wasn't close enough work" or they would have a similar complaint as I had where they worked hard to become educated and got shot down because of their position in the army. A few reported finding work enough to pay the bills. Hell, for a while I was like a free recruiter for you. When I got railroaded by the company I was placed, illegally let go in conjunction with military service and injury, and Bradley Morris didn't have my back or help me find a new position. In fact my requests for help were met with increasingly despondent and apathetic replies over more and more infrequency. Uprooting my life to move hundreds of miles away to get screwed over by civilians is one thing, but not from my supposed battle buddies. That level of blue falconry along with the institutional bias was enough to call for the necessity of replying to this when it popped up on Rally point. I haven't sought any vengeance or something petty like that. I have however, endeavored to educate the people that come to learn about this head hunter corporation that it's not all sunshine and rainbows. In fact, it's the same bottom line as anywhere else in corporate America which means putting the $ before the serviceman despite rhetoric claiming the opposite.
Is BM more inclined to help the individual from the service find a JOB (just over broke) than a different agency? I would say yes, but mainly if you are willing to relocate to a big city and only for the first job. Would I give audience to BM again if they came my way with a fantastic offer? Sure I would, but forever with a grain of salt. It seems the bigger these Vet Help organizations become, the less altruistic they become. I love my service-mates and in or out of uniform am willing to fight beside them because of our common bond and the greater good. However, if I see danger and can help them avoid a potential landmine I will stick my neck out to help them. That's the motivation for this posting.
You affirmed that you direct hopeful employment seekers into slots based upon their ranks. Again I find this woefully unjust and a disservice to those that have worked hard to change their stars.
I will plainly state that you do help vets get a job. Because unemployment for us folks that serve is 200%the civilian rate we need work desperately a lot of times. You service does function to stick a peg in a hole, so to say, whether it be cognizant of being round or square I don't know.
I have sent lots of service members to BM. Many of them come back with stories of "it just wasn't close enough work" or they would have a similar complaint as I had where they worked hard to become educated and got shot down because of their position in the army. A few reported finding work enough to pay the bills. Hell, for a while I was like a free recruiter for you. When I got railroaded by the company I was placed, illegally let go in conjunction with military service and injury, and Bradley Morris didn't have my back or help me find a new position. In fact my requests for help were met with increasingly despondent and apathetic replies over more and more infrequency. Uprooting my life to move hundreds of miles away to get screwed over by civilians is one thing, but not from my supposed battle buddies. That level of blue falconry along with the institutional bias was enough to call for the necessity of replying to this when it popped up on Rally point. I haven't sought any vengeance or something petty like that. I have however, endeavored to educate the people that come to learn about this head hunter corporation that it's not all sunshine and rainbows. In fact, it's the same bottom line as anywhere else in corporate America which means putting the $ before the serviceman despite rhetoric claiming the opposite.
Is BM more inclined to help the individual from the service find a JOB (just over broke) than a different agency? I would say yes, but mainly if you are willing to relocate to a big city and only for the first job. Would I give audience to BM again if they came my way with a fantastic offer? Sure I would, but forever with a grain of salt. It seems the bigger these Vet Help organizations become, the less altruistic they become. I love my service-mates and in or out of uniform am willing to fight beside them because of our common bond and the greater good. However, if I see danger and can help them avoid a potential landmine I will stick my neck out to help them. That's the motivation for this posting.
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CPT Michael Arsenault
Respectfully, I would suggest that the one thing we can agree on is that while we’ve placed literally tens of thousands of satisfied transitioning service members and veterans over 25 years in business, our no cost service is not a fit for everyone. We encourage everyone to consider us as a part of their overall career search.
I will take issue with the insinuation that we would ever actively “screw over” a service member. The vast majority of our employees are veterans, both officers and enlisted, as well as civilian supporters, who take pride in what we do. As an MBA, you can surely appreciate that there is no possible business reason why a company like ours who relies on our good reputation within the veteran and business community would take actions that are adverse to the interests to our job seekers and employers. If Bradley-Morris assumed the type of posture towards veterans that you suggest, we wouldn’t be in business very long, much less a quarter century.
In closing, one of the key pieces of advice that we give transitioning service members and veterans is to represent themselves positively at all times, online and off, as their posture, behavior and attitudes reflect not just on themselves but the entire veteran job seeing population in the eyes of employers.
I will take issue with the insinuation that we would ever actively “screw over” a service member. The vast majority of our employees are veterans, both officers and enlisted, as well as civilian supporters, who take pride in what we do. As an MBA, you can surely appreciate that there is no possible business reason why a company like ours who relies on our good reputation within the veteran and business community would take actions that are adverse to the interests to our job seekers and employers. If Bradley-Morris assumed the type of posture towards veterans that you suggest, we wouldn’t be in business very long, much less a quarter century.
In closing, one of the key pieces of advice that we give transitioning service members and veterans is to represent themselves positively at all times, online and off, as their posture, behavior and attitudes reflect not just on themselves but the entire veteran job seeing population in the eyes of employers.
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CPT I can agree with that. To be professional is very important. I tell you what, next time I get ready for a change I'll look up BM and see what they have to offer. I am weary after the last experience, but I am not set in stone. Yes I lost over 30K the last time I took a chance on a company I was set up with, but it was more the company than BM. My issue was BM didn't have my back and had no support when issues arose. Things like company not honoring its agreement through start dates, promised pay, etcetera.
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