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Interesting read, I think climate change is real since today we don't have glaciers over half of the northern hemisphere. Politics has made it so that no definitive studies can be conducted to determine what, if any, the long term consequences may be.
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LTC (Join to see)
John, did you read the sarcastic comments in the comment section of this article. It talks about how scientists can't get their way because you have a board that will tell them yes or no you can do research on this topic but it has to have a certain and state or conclusion that favors their narrative that man is at fault. It is climate political science
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Lt Col John (Jack) Christensen
LTC (Join to see) Yes and that is pretty typical from my experience. As in politics, science leans towards whomever is paying the bills.
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SSG (Join to see)
The glacier comment is not totally true, some had receded but they are not gone. Plus March 2019 NASA did a survey on the largest glacier on greenland and it had grown. Of course it was down played by saying this may only be a temporary happening.
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A very intelligent article and I totally agree with the statement that climatology has become a political tool and not a science anymore.
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SGT Mary G.
SSG (Join to see) - Cpl (Join to see) - I dunno about that, because it is such a minimal amount of time that while we see weather patterns, we do not see overall changes in climate. Depends on who is doing the studying. Doesn't sound like earth sciences folks. When we look at thousands of years there are definite cycles that show steady upward movement then downward movement - looks like an oscilliscope - and that provides a pattern of frequency. The shorter time periods are full of ups and downs, and maybe gradual increases and decreases for several decades.
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SSG (Join to see)
SGT Mary G. - That is the overall problem, most of the global warmer are just using data from the last 100 years to set their models and this skews the numbers.
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Cpl (Join to see)
SSG (Join to see) SGT Mary G. The problem is that they are gathering data to fit an answer instead of deriving the answer from the data. It's been proven that their models exclude solar and geothermic data.
At one point they were putting temp sensors near areas prone to thermal bloom, i.e., urban centers while excluding Siberian sensors. NASA's Mann was caught in emails calling for other "climate" scientists to hide the decline in temps before he published the now debunked hockey stick used in algore's "inconvenient truth."
"Climate scientists" make their money through government grants, or our taxes. They have a vested interest in getting paid. Humans are flawed and some are greedy. Scientists are not immune from human nature.
At one point they were putting temp sensors near areas prone to thermal bloom, i.e., urban centers while excluding Siberian sensors. NASA's Mann was caught in emails calling for other "climate" scientists to hide the decline in temps before he published the now debunked hockey stick used in algore's "inconvenient truth."
"Climate scientists" make their money through government grants, or our taxes. They have a vested interest in getting paid. Humans are flawed and some are greedy. Scientists are not immune from human nature.
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SGT Mary G.
Cpl (Join to see) - Yes, there are many variables left out of the models. Given that the scientists who are leaving out the variables should know better than to do so, it raises questions about intent.
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A minor correction, the federal government just nationalize a 4 billion dollar pipeline in Canada to allow it to get built but then the schizophrenic Canadian government has a bill in Parliament that would prevent crude oil from Alberta from being shipped out the West Coast. It's like the Canadian government is split between the ocasio-cortez extreme green faction and prime minister Trudeau is like Nancy Pelosi who doesn't believe in extreme green. this craziness in Canada is what's creeping into the craziness of the USA now
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