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MSgt Nondestructive Inspection (NDI)
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She needs to go to jail. She shot the poor guy in his own home.
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SGT Combat Engineer
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The whole thing is sad, but it was made worse with the release of irrelevant information about the victim. That was pretty shabby.
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SFC Harry H.
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That's the media for you.
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Patricia Overmeyer
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Thankfully she won't have another job as a police officer. Unless the union comes to her rescue and takes up the legal cause that she was wrongfully fired.
The whole situation is so sad. I feel so sorry for his mother, to bury her son and to have to hear the three different versions of the same old story. Ugh.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
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SFC Harry H. - you're an idiot then, because 1100 people are killed by the police every year, and 50 people are killed by lightning strikes. Your comment about the statistical probability of being struck by lightning and winning the lotto being higher than being killed by the police is just factually wrong. What's sad is that it only took me 5 minutes to get the relevant data to prove that you were just making stuff up.

Second, where did I say that every incident was unjustified? I hold a master peace officer certificate in Texas, and was working as an officer in the projects while you were still in elementary school. I did over twenty years as a cop before I went to law school, but I will point out something--when up to 20% of those killed are unarmed, there's a problem. And its a problem that we need to fix, before we alienate the public to the point that they fix it for us. Several cities have already established police review boards that can fire officers, over the objection of the local police administration and unions. In Oakland, the review board can fire the chief.

That's what happens when you alienate the public. This wasn't something that the local government created, it was created by the citizens, who overwhelmingly voted to implement it. It's happening more and more, especially since every citizen now has a video camera.

I'll also point out that I was a police firearms instructor and armorer, and still carry on a daily basis. I'm not all that concerned about being robbed. You can make BS comments about old people, but it just makes you look like the idiot, not me.
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SFC Harry H.
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Capt Gregory Prickett - So thank you for proving my point. I roped you into commenting on the inaccurate information. Merely to prove the point that you said nothing about the actually true facts that I presented based on your statistics and how absurd they actually really are. I just proved that people like you ignore facts and are very close minded.

Why haven't you given any incite, advice, or solutions on how we as LE or Civilians need to combat the problems of today. Com' on Master Peace Officer, enlighten us all with your years of wisdom. Tell us how you did things in the 70's. I so want to know how you beat people with your billy clubs and choked subjects trying to swallow drugs to evade arrest. You know there is so much I would love to say and defend our problems we are facing today, but you have already determined what it is that you are going to determine anyways, just like so many others. We are only baby boomers and millennial's to you and your era was so far superior then ours. Times have changed old wise one, we face a growing population then what you faced in the 70's. There is a 120.6 million more citizens then when you were an officer and that again is not including the estimated 11.4 million illegals and the 75.9 million international visitors. We also deal with and face the failures of your generation as well as my own.

You said, "It is far more likely that a civilian will die than a cop will die". If you would of read my statistics and acknowledged that they made sense, then your obvious statement would of already been proven to be correct. "11,000, 2,200, 1,100 people are killed by the police", is what you keep saying. What you keep failing to mention though is how many of those police action shootings were justified. I don't care to see numbers on justified police action shootings and the running count of civilians being killed by cops. SHOW ME UNJUSTIFIED NUMBERS!!! Then take those numbers divide those by I don't give a shit and shove them up your ass is what I want to say, Oh did I say that? Even you should know and many other Service Members should know, that in the heat of the moment, decisions are to be made in split seconds without time to rationalize and process the entire situation or you yourself could be dead.
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SFC Harry H.
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Capt Gregory Prickett - Dude, I'm done talking with you. Don't even respond. Have a good day and god bless you.
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Capt Gregory Prickett
Capt Gregory Prickett
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SFC Harry H. - lol, you don't get to tell me not to respond.

Responding to your comments, and your insults, we did things a lot differently when I started. We didn't need SWAT for everything, and we used force a lot less often because we talked to people. Second, police work isn't that much tougher today than it was when I started, in fact, it's much safer for officers. That's good, and it is progress, but it doesn't change that we need to address our own problems.

Which brings up the third point. You say I should speak up with what we should do? I have, repeatedly. I wrote a twice a week column in an ABA Top 100 legal site for two years, and said what we should do on numerous occasions. To summarize it for you, officer-involved shootings should be investigated by an outside agency, with the report presented to an appointed special prosecutor. If the officer is not prosecuted, then the report should be released to the public. An example is my column on the Yvette Smith case out of central Texas, http://mimesislaw.com/fault-lines/yvette-smiths-murder-should-be-news-but-its-not/3118 .

What your problem is Harry is that you don't look past what is directly in front of your face. You made an immediate assumption that I wasn't law enforcement or a prior LEO. You made an incorrect assumption that I somehow needed the "protection" of people like you, and would be unable to protect myself. You made an assumption that I haven't spoken up, made suggestions, or backed up officers when the shooting was justified. I have, and I've taken a lot of heat from people who didn't like my comments on various OIS situations, such as the Tamir Rice case up north, http://mimesislaw.com/fault-lines/if-we-dont-get-the-results-we-want/3754 .

I'll be happy to discuss issues with you, but if you think that I'm just going to sit here and listen to your position that is unsupported by facts (aside from what you pulled out of your a**), you're going to be sadly mistaken.
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