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This is ridiculous. The men who did these readings wouldn't have been allowed near children given the types of things they are into (i.e. pornography) in any other arena. Yet, I'll be called a bigot for saying that. Fun times we're living in huh?
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SGT James Murphy
MAJ (Join to see) - Our Daughter Home Schooled Our Grandsons... Consequently.......Just saying.....
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SGT James Murphy - We looked into that but it just isn't an option for us. Fortunately for us in Mississippi, liberal changes come slowly. But it IS coming.
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SGT James Murphy
MAJ (Join to see) - You might want to Google Home Schooling Groups in your Town. That's what my Daughter Did, Plus the Baptist Church she goes to had a lot of support materials and people involved in it too!
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But, that's anything ever. All ideologies take root in the young and through education. Those are always primary goals in anything. So, I don't understand the point.
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1LT (Join to see) - It's not rhetoric. It's just the truth.
Also, when you mentioned to SGT James Murphy that the Christian faith doesn't teach us that we should suppress others when they share their faith, I think you'll find that one attribute you will not see God having in the Bible is tolerance for other religions. Now, we as Americans cannot tell others that they can't share their faith, I get that. But nowhere in the Bible does it tell us to give space to any other religion to promote itself.
Also, when you mentioned to SGT James Murphy that the Christian faith doesn't teach us that we should suppress others when they share their faith, I think you'll find that one attribute you will not see God having in the Bible is tolerance for other religions. Now, we as Americans cannot tell others that they can't share their faith, I get that. But nowhere in the Bible does it tell us to give space to any other religion to promote itself.
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MAJ (Join to see) You're right, the bible doesn't promote pluralism. And that is a very interesting point, but I can think of several instances that provide some pushback. Most importantly, the fact that Jesus was a Jew and came to redeem Gentiles. God tolerated those outside of chosen people, Israel, and moreover, came to earth in human form not to destroy or silence them, but to die for and redeem them. So, the theology at work in the Christ narrative convinces me that in our primary dealings with others we must first promote love and peace, before hostility and aggression, though I believe both have their place.
I also think of the passage about the good Samaritan, who was neither Jewish nor christian. Or the time that Jesus spoke intimately with the Samaritan woman. Could the societal status of Samaritans in the ancient near east not be comparable to those of some drag queens today? It may be a stretch, but it's something to think about. I think God is fond of the oppressed in any society, despite their sins.
We could also talk about the passage in Mark and Luke where the Apostles noticed someone casting out demons who was not a follower of Christ, aka, a different religion. The authors of both books seems to paint a somewhat tolerant picture of Jesus in those stories, in the overarching sense of a kingdom narrative. But, I also see God mercilessly wiping out pagans and idol worshipers through the Bible. My belief is that we begin with Christ's example first and foremost, as he declared that he is the way, the truth, and the life.
Yet, for me it's difficult to define what that "space" is. I want to say that we must protect that civil space, namely the freedom of speech that everyone in America has. But, preserve our right as Christians to keep our children from participating in certain things according to our religious beliefs, a more personal family space. So, not pluralism, but maybe something else? What do you think?
I also think of the passage about the good Samaritan, who was neither Jewish nor christian. Or the time that Jesus spoke intimately with the Samaritan woman. Could the societal status of Samaritans in the ancient near east not be comparable to those of some drag queens today? It may be a stretch, but it's something to think about. I think God is fond of the oppressed in any society, despite their sins.
We could also talk about the passage in Mark and Luke where the Apostles noticed someone casting out demons who was not a follower of Christ, aka, a different religion. The authors of both books seems to paint a somewhat tolerant picture of Jesus in those stories, in the overarching sense of a kingdom narrative. But, I also see God mercilessly wiping out pagans and idol worshipers through the Bible. My belief is that we begin with Christ's example first and foremost, as he declared that he is the way, the truth, and the life.
Yet, for me it's difficult to define what that "space" is. I want to say that we must protect that civil space, namely the freedom of speech that everyone in America has. But, preserve our right as Christians to keep our children from participating in certain things according to our religious beliefs, a more personal family space. So, not pluralism, but maybe something else? What do you think?
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1LT (Join to see) - I agree that Jesus associated with sinners. He ate and drank with them. Yes, we should love drag queens the same way Christ loved sinners. And yes, God is patient with sinners and "tolerated" them. It should be noted that God's tolerance for sinners was His "putting up with them" for a while, not an acceptance of what they were doing. Today in 2019 tolerance means we have to accept what others do as right. God never did that. At no point do we see God or Christ condone the sins of others. God did not call on us to make sure the "other side" gets a chance to voice their beliefs. He does call us to love them and be gracious to them. There's the difference. I can love the gay community and be kind to them while at the same time disagreeing with them and actively trying to keep the gay agenda at bay. The two don't contradict each other.
But as we know, here in America we can all voice our beliefs. So as an American, yes others get the chance to speak and that's a good thing. Do we have to listen or agree? Of course not. That's a good thing too.
But as we know, here in America we can all voice our beliefs. So as an American, yes others get the chance to speak and that's a good thing. Do we have to listen or agree? Of course not. That's a good thing too.
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