Posted on Jul 17, 2022
Experts to comb site of plane crash in northern Greece
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Experts were poised to investigate the site of a plane crash in northern Greece Sunday to determine whether any dangerous chemicals or explosive cargo remains.
The An-12 cargo plane smashed into fields between two villages late Saturday. Local residents reported seeing a fireball and hearing explosions for two hours after the crash. A plume of white smoke was still rising from the front end of the plane on Sunday morning.
Serbian Defense Minister Nebojsa Stefanovic told a news conference Sunday that all eight crewmembers were killed. He said the plane was carrying 11.5 tons of Serbian-made mortar ammunition to Bangladesh, which was the buyer. It had taken off from the Serbian city of Nis and had been due to make a stopover in Amman, Jordan.
The plane was operated by Ukrainian cargo carrier Meridian, and the Ukrainian consul in Thessaloniki, who has arrived at the crash site, told local officials that the crew were all Ukrainian.
"These were illuminating mortar mines and training (mines). ... This flight had all necessary permissions in accordance with international regulations," Stefanovic said.
Experts were poised to investigate the site of a plane crash in northern Greece Sunday to determine whether any dangerous chemicals or explosive cargo remains.
The An-12 cargo plane smashed into fields between two villages late Saturday. Local residents reported seeing a fireball and hearing explosions for two hours after the crash. A plume of white smoke was still rising from the front end of the plane on Sunday morning.
Serbian Defense Minister Nebojsa Stefanovic told a news conference Sunday that all eight crewmembers were killed. He said the plane was carrying 11.5 tons of Serbian-made mortar ammunition to Bangladesh, which was the buyer. It had taken off from the Serbian city of Nis and had been due to make a stopover in Amman, Jordan.
The plane was operated by Ukrainian cargo carrier Meridian, and the Ukrainian consul in Thessaloniki, who has arrived at the crash site, told local officials that the crew were all Ukrainian.
"These were illuminating mortar mines and training (mines). ... This flight had all necessary permissions in accordance with international regulations," Stefanovic said.
Experts to comb site of plane crash in northern Greece
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Very CAREFULLY comb through the wreckage…
Unexplored ordnance is a temporary condition.
Unexplored ordnance is a temporary condition.
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PO1 William "Chip" Nagel
Being in Flight Medicine and rescue, of the thousands of responses to Inflight Emergencies (IFEs) I was involved in, there were a few (16) that were fatal. And those aren't pretty, given high-performance aircraft. The mishap investigation begins immediately, and we had to be very observant, and extremely careful about not disturbing the crash site, unless we had to clear structures to get to the mishap personnel. The Explosives Ordnance Folks tackle that piece, and then clear the medics into the scene for recovery.
This jet trainer went down on my birthday, and I had taken the day off. I was driving past the base and saw it go down. I wheeled around, and the SP at the gate recognized me, pointing to the convoy just ahead, and I joined it. After the EOD guys confirmed they'd disabled the ejection seat triggers, they let us in. One was about to get sick, and I had to almost carry him away, as he would have contaminated the scene with Foreign Objects, so to speak. Of all the fatal mishap investigations I was involved in during my 20 years, this was the only one where the occupants (IP and SP) were each in one piece.
There are things one never gets over (which I won't expand on), but suffice it to say, there are times when responders are so affected by those events they apply for retraining into a more "quiet" career field. And even though we recover the body parts (after photographing and documenting the scene) while wearing surgical gloves, that smell hits you psychologically, and can stay with you for a couple of days. That said, the best thing one can do in those situations is to protect the scene and the remains (there was one mishap in Northern Spain where we shot two wild dogs who were touring the wreckage for food, if you get my drift). It's a very challenging job, but thankfully almost all aeromedical personnel are dedicated to it, and protect the remains as if they were our own brethren.
Being in Flight Medicine and rescue, of the thousands of responses to Inflight Emergencies (IFEs) I was involved in, there were a few (16) that were fatal. And those aren't pretty, given high-performance aircraft. The mishap investigation begins immediately, and we had to be very observant, and extremely careful about not disturbing the crash site, unless we had to clear structures to get to the mishap personnel. The Explosives Ordnance Folks tackle that piece, and then clear the medics into the scene for recovery.
This jet trainer went down on my birthday, and I had taken the day off. I was driving past the base and saw it go down. I wheeled around, and the SP at the gate recognized me, pointing to the convoy just ahead, and I joined it. After the EOD guys confirmed they'd disabled the ejection seat triggers, they let us in. One was about to get sick, and I had to almost carry him away, as he would have contaminated the scene with Foreign Objects, so to speak. Of all the fatal mishap investigations I was involved in during my 20 years, this was the only one where the occupants (IP and SP) were each in one piece.
There are things one never gets over (which I won't expand on), but suffice it to say, there are times when responders are so affected by those events they apply for retraining into a more "quiet" career field. And even though we recover the body parts (after photographing and documenting the scene) while wearing surgical gloves, that smell hits you psychologically, and can stay with you for a couple of days. That said, the best thing one can do in those situations is to protect the scene and the remains (there was one mishap in Northern Spain where we shot two wild dogs who were touring the wreckage for food, if you get my drift). It's a very challenging job, but thankfully almost all aeromedical personnel are dedicated to it, and protect the remains as if they were our own brethren.
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